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VANAGON archives – June 2013, week 3

  1. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (16 lines)
  2. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (52 lines)
  3. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (42 lines)
  4. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (78 lines)
  5. Re: Fridge Fan (77 lines)
  6. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (32 lines)
  7. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (38 lines)
  8. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (69 lines)
  9. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (52 lines)
  10. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (25 lines)
  11. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (45 lines)
  12. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (27 lines)
  13. Re: Ordering Parts Online (27 lines)
  14. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (35 lines)
  15. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (32 lines)
  16. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (23 lines)
  17. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (38 lines)
  18. a couple of minor mods (19 lines)
  19. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (30 lines)
  20. Re: Fridge Fan (54 lines)
  21. Re: Yowser! (37 lines)
  22. Re: Yowser! (38 lines)
  23. Re: removing NA/dipstick (31 lines)
  24. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (23 lines)
  25. Re: Yowser! (31 lines)
  26. Re: removing NA/dipstick (24 lines)
  27. Eric Caron is on the road! (15 lines)
  28. Re: removing NA/dipstick (16 lines)
  29. Re: removing NA/dipstick (29 lines)
  30. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (26 lines)
  31. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (15 lines)
  32. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (101 lines)
  33. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (65 lines)
  34. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (30 lines)
  35. Re: removing NA/dipstick (87 lines)
  36. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (19 lines)
  37. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (55 lines)
  38. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (13 lines)
  39. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (92 lines)
  40. Re: Friday: so you need a place to do some work on your Vanagon? (50 lines)
  41. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (79 lines)
  42. Re: removing NA/dipstick (81 lines)
  43. Re: removing NA/dipstick (75 lines)
  44. Re: removing NA/dipstick (76 lines)
  45. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (16 lines)
  46. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (52 lines)
  47. Re: Fridge Fan (29 lines)
  48. Re: removing NA/dipstick (62 lines)
  49. Re: Friday: so you need a place to do some work on your Vanagon? (45 lines)
  50. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (30 lines)
  51. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (62 lines)
  52. Re: removing NA/dipstick (37 lines)
  53. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (53 lines)
  54. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (44 lines)
  55. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (37 lines)
  56. Fridge Fan (26 lines)
  57. Re: Mkbokijkiuu (28 lines)
  58. Re: Yowser! (51 lines)
  59. Mkbokijkiuu (20 lines)
  60. Re: Friday: so you need a place to do some work on your Vanagon? (39 lines)
  61. Re: Friday: so you need a place to do some work on your Vanagon? (29 lines)
  62. Re: Yowser! (62 lines)
  63. Friday: so you need a place to do some work on your Vanagon? (13 lines)
  64. Re: Yowser! (46 lines)
  65. Re: Front heater core change 91 Vanagaon (58 lines)
  66. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (40 lines)
  67. Front heater core change 91 Vanagaon (33 lines)
  68. Anyone have a spare clutch slave-cylinder-side metal line I could purchase / have? (15 lines)
  69. Re: Hitch Question (37 lines)
  70. Re: Engine Degreasing (41 lines)
  71. Re: Yowser! (48 lines)
  72. Re: Yowser! (39 lines)
  73. porta potty (28 lines)
  74. Re: Frydaye ~ What's this part? (52 lines)
  75. Re: Yowser! (58 lines)
  76. Re: [VANAGON] Revo VW T5 breaks Nürburgri ng van record (17 lines)
  77. Re: Frydaye ~ What's this part? (42 lines)
  78. Re: removing NA/dipstick (28 lines)
  79. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (29 lines)
  80. Re: Yowser! (52 lines)
  81. Re: Yowser! (28 lines)
  82. Re: Frydaye ~ What's this part? (26 lines)
  83. Revo VW T5 breaks Nürburgring van record (9 lines)
  84. Re: Yowser! (28 lines)
  85. Re: Yowser! (39 lines)
  86. Hitch Question (17 lines)
  87. Re: Frydaye ~ What's this part? (54 lines)
  88. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (20 lines)
  89. Yowser! (20 lines)
  90. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (47 lines)
  91. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (62 lines)
  92. removing NA/dipstick (17 lines)
  93. Re: Frydaye ~ What's this part? (52 lines)
  94. Frydaye ~ What's this part? (26 lines)
  95. Re: porta potty (18 lines)
  96. Friday musings on expensive things (29 lines)
  97. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (55 lines)
  98. Re: Engine Degreasing (27 lines)
  99. Re: Engine Degreasing (26 lines)
  100. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (46 lines)
  101. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (40 lines)
  102. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (34 lines)
  103. Engine Degreasing (18 lines)
  104. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (17 lines)
  105. Vanagon sightings Napa Mustang Days (16 lines)
  106. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (38 lines)
  107. Re: internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (33 lines)
  108. Re: Bus Depot ordering question (25 lines)
  109. internal EngineCleanerUpperStuff ? (24 lines)
  110. Needed AC Swich (18 lines)
  111. Re: Bus Depot ordering question (20 lines)
  112. Re: Bus Depot ordering question (44 lines)
  113. Re: Bus Depot ordering question (39 lines)
  114. Re: Bus Depot ordering question (33 lines)
  115. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (34 lines)
  116. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (40 lines)
  117. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (23 lines)
  118. Re: porta potty (46 lines)
  119. Re: Newest Video about removing and replacing upper ball joint (18 lines)
  120. Re: porta potty (35 lines)
  121. Re: Bus Depot ordering question (23 lines)
  122. Bus Depot ordering question (12 lines)
  123. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (64 lines)
  124. Re: Ordering Parts Online (46 lines)
  125. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (94 lines)
  126. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (25 lines)
  127. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (69 lines)
  128. Re: Newest Video about removing and replacing upper ball joint (51 lines)
  129. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (61 lines)
  130. Re: Newest Video about removing and replacing upper ball joint (36 lines)
  131. Newest Video about removing and replacing upper ball joint (19 lines)
  132. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (42 lines)
  133. Re: Ordering Parts Online (65 lines)
  134. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. 12 volt operation. (63 lines)
  135. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (31 lines)
  136. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (21 lines)
  137. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (71 lines)
  138. Re: Scary happening plus fuel injectors/catalytic converter (72 lines)
  139. Re: Scary happening plus fuel injectors/catalytic converter (67 lines)
  140. Re: Scary happening plus fuel injectors/catalytic converter (54 lines)
  141. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (50 lines)
  142. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. 12 volt operation. (48 lines)
  143. DIY Westy chuck box (46 lines)
  144. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (36 lines)
  145. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (23 lines)
  146. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (61 lines)
  147. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (49 lines)
  148. Re: Fuel/gas tank question (22 lines)
  149. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (38 lines)
  150. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. (40 lines)
  151. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. (28 lines)
  152. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (27 lines)
  153. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (26 lines)
  154. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (34 lines)
  155. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (26 lines)
  156. Re: A/C duct work "improvements" (17 lines)
  157. A/C duct work "improvements" (16 lines)
  158. Fuel/gas tank question (13 lines)
  159. Re: Scary happening plus fuel injectors/catalytic converter (21 lines)
  160. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (32 lines)
  161. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (50 lines)
  162. Re: Ordering Parts Online (32 lines)
  163. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. (42 lines)
  164. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. (28 lines)
  165. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (21 lines)
  166. AC Fan Switch for 85 Westy (13 lines)
  167. Re: Instrument cluster for 82? (25 lines)
  168. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (49 lines)
  169. Re: Ordering Parts Online (30 lines)
  170. Re: Ordering Parts Online (35 lines)
  171. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (33 lines)
  172. Instrument cluster for 82? (15 lines)
  173. Re: Scary happening plus fuel injectors/catalytic converter (57 lines)
  174. Re: Ordering Parts Online (87 lines)
  175. Re: Ordering Parts Online (25 lines)
  176. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (39 lines)
  177. Re: Sharpie your Vanagon (32 lines)
  178. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (29 lines)
  179. Re: Ordering Parts Online (16 lines)
  180. Scary happening plus fuel injectors/catalytic converter (15 lines)
  181. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (42 lines)
  182. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (15 lines)
  183. Re: Ordering Parts Online (53 lines)
  184. Another Refrigerator Option (13 lines)
  185. Re: Ordering Parts Online (130 lines)
  186. West Haven Connecticut - inspection or shop recco (24 lines)
  187. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (35 lines)
  188. Re: Ordering Parts Online (103 lines)
  189. Re: Ordering Parts Online (53 lines)
  190. Re: Ordering Parts Online (46 lines)
  191. Re: Frig running.....-Refrigerator power consumption. (66 lines)
  192. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (47 lines)
  193. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (72 lines)
  194. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (24 lines)
  195. Re: Sharpie your Vanagon (17 lines)
  196. Re: Sharpie your Vanagon (60 lines)
  197. Re: Frig running..... (51 lines)
  198. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (36 lines)
  199. Re: Frig running..... (32 lines)
  200. Re: can't go forward (50 lines)
  201. Re: Sharpie your Vanagon (51 lines)
  202. Re: Ordering Parts Online (19 lines)
  203. Re: Removing the A/C duct work (33 lines)
  204. Re: Frig running..... (48 lines)
  205. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (22 lines)
  206. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (33 lines)
  207. Frig running..... (19 lines)
  208. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (61 lines)
  209. Re: Dometic Cooler (36 lines)
  210. Removing the A/C duct work (13 lines)
  211. Re: Dometic Cooler (53 lines)
  212. Re: DIY Westy chuck box (38 lines)
  213. Re: Parting out 87 Syncro Passenger van (43 lines)
  214. DIY Westy chuck box (26 lines)
  215. Re: Ordering Parts Online (72 lines)
  216. Koolatron (16 lines)
  217. Re: Sharpie your Vanagon (29 lines)
  218. Re: Ordering Parts Online (30 lines)
  219. Re: Ordering Parts Online (42 lines)
  220. Re: Ordering Parts Online (41 lines)
  221. Re: Ordering Parts Online (21 lines)
  222. Sharpie your Vanagon (13 lines)
  223. Re: Ordering Parts Online (40 lines)
  224. Re: battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (44 lines)
  225. Ordering Parts Online (30 lines)
  226. Re: can't go forward (28 lines)
  227. Re: Parting out 87 Syncro Passenger van (35 lines)
  228. Re: Dometic Cooler (83 lines)
  229. Re: Parting out 87 Syncro Passenger van (42 lines)
  230. Re: can't go forward (21 lines)
  231. Re: can't go forward (27 lines)
  232. Re: Dometic Cooler (63 lines)
  233. Re: battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (48 lines)
  234. Re: Dometic Cooler (38 lines)
  235. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (67 lines)
  236. Re: Dometic Cooler (58 lines)
  237. Re: Dometic Cooler (29 lines)
  238. Re: Dometic Cooler (31 lines)
  239. Re: Dometic Cooler (42 lines)
  240. Re: Dometic Cooler (24 lines)
  241. Re: Dometic Cooler (20 lines)
  242. Re: battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (33 lines)
  243. Dometic Cooler (12 lines)
  244. AC Solved (13 lines)
  245. Parting out 87 Syncro Passenger van (32 lines)
  246. Re: battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (46 lines)
  247. Re: battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (42 lines)
  248. Re: battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (30 lines)
  249. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (74 lines)
  250. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (73 lines)
  251. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (66 lines)
  252. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (92 lines)
  253. WTB: side window (23 lines)
  254. battery charger for smaller AA, D, etc. (20 lines)
  255. Re: aux gauges install (54 lines)
  256. Re: Westfalia made trialer for sale (25 lines)
  257. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (72 lines)
  258. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (23 lines)
  259. 82 door parts (34 lines)
  260. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (51 lines)
  261. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (45 lines)
  262. Re: Removing my 1.6 na (33 lines)
  263. Removing my 1.6 na (19 lines)
  264. Re: Integrated Laptop Charger (29 lines)
  265. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (74 lines)
  266. Integrated Laptop Charger (17 lines)
  267. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (60 lines)
  268. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (43 lines)
  269. Re: Power Mirrors on a non-power van (18 lines)
  270. Travelling, I-35 corridor (17 lines)
  271. Re: Power Mirrors on a non-power van (35 lines)
  272. Power Mirrors on a non-power van (19 lines)
  273. '81 Vanagon Air Cooled Parts FS Vancouver BC Canada (52 lines)
  274. A/C Ducts, etc. In Central Ohio (17 lines)
  275. Re: aux gauges install (32 lines)
  276. Re: aux gauges install (27 lines)
  277. Re: aux gauges install (49 lines)
  278. Re: aux gauges install (40 lines)
  279. Re: aux gauges install (28 lines)
  280. Re: aux gauges install (32 lines)
  281. Re: aux gauges install (23 lines)
  282. aux gauges install (17 lines)
  283. Re: Cooperative ownership (30 lines)
  284. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (32 lines)
  285. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (36 lines)
  286. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (69 lines)
  287. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (39 lines)
  288. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (60 lines)
  289. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (44 lines)
  290. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (47 lines)
  291. Re: Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (40 lines)
  292. Looking for a Vanagon Westfalia - New member from Toronto (23 lines)
  293. Re: quick and dirty head replacement - update (20 lines)
  294. Re: quick and dirty head replacement - update (49 lines)
  295. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (25 lines)
  296. Re: Cooperative ownership (20 lines)
  297. Re: quick and dirty head replacement - update (38 lines)
  298. Cooperative ownership (12 lines)
  299. rear spkr wires (17 lines)
  300. quick and dirty head replacement - update (19 lines)
  301. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (40 lines)
  302. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (157 lines)
  303. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (148 lines)
  304. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (35 lines)
  305. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (166 lines)
  306. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (137 lines)
  307. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (78 lines)
  308. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (41 lines)
  309. VW Blog (16 lines)
  310. Re: Nexen SV820 (81 lines)
  311. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (67 lines)
  312. Re: Nexen SV820 (65 lines)
  313. Re: Nexen SV820 (44 lines)
  314. Re: Nexen SV820 (41 lines)
  315. Re: Nexen SV820 (90 lines)
  316. Re: Nexen SV820 (44 lines)
  317. Nexen SV820 (76 lines)
  318. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (51 lines)
  319. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (17 lines)
  320. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (22 lines)
  321. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (53 lines)
  322. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (101 lines)
  323. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (42 lines)
  324. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (71 lines)
  325. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (56 lines)
  326. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (32 lines)
  327. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (42 lines)
  328. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (66 lines)
  329. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (38 lines)
  330. Re: rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (19 lines)
  331. For sale: Front bumper, chrome, '87 Vanagon (15 lines)
  332. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (24 lines)
  333. rear speaker wires, '83 Westy (11 lines)
  334. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (17 lines)
  335. Re: cooperative Westy ownership? (54 lines)
  336. cooperative Westy ownership? (33 lines)
  337. Re: Installig crankshaft pulley on a 2.1L...... (52 lines)
  338. Re: Installig crankshaft pulley on a 2.1L...... (35 lines)
  339. Re: Multimeter Recommendations - Thanks! (12 lines)
  340. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (18 lines)
  341. Re: Vanagon Sighting(s) (23 lines)
  342. Vanagon Sighting(s) (13 lines)
  343. Installig crankshaft pulley on a 2.1L...... (20 lines)
  344. Re: Clutch Bleeding (54 lines)
  345. Re: Clutch Bleeding (27 lines)
  346. Re: Clutch Bleeding (55 lines)
  347. Re: Clutch Bleeding (29 lines)
  348. Re: Clutch Bleeding (25 lines)
  349. Re: Clutch Bleeding (14 lines)
  350. Re: Emissions test failure (51 lines)
  351. Re: can't go forward (43 lines)
  352. Re: speaking of rear oil seals: end play shims? (39 lines)
  353. Re: Please help me figure out what I need for front suspension rebuild bushings (44 lines)
  354. Re: Clutch Bleeding (37 lines)
  355. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (69 lines)
  356. Re: Clutch Bleeding (25 lines)
  357. Re: Clutch Bleeding (54 lines)
  358. Re: Clutch Bleeding (41 lines)
  359. Clutch Bleeding (15 lines)
  360. FS: new valves (15 lines)
  361. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (41 lines)
  362. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (52 lines)
  363. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (25 lines)
  364. Re: Please help me figure out what I need for front suspension rebuild bushings (36 lines)
  365. Please help me figure out what I need for front suspension rebuild bushings (27 lines)
  366. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (170 lines)
  367. Re: can't go forward (33 lines)
  368. Re: Why I love Mercedes Benz but would never own one of their cars (31 lines)
  369. Multimeter Recommendations (39 lines)
  370. Re: Why I love Mercedes Benz but would never own one of their cars (197 lines)
  371. Re: Westfalia made trailer for sale - location correction (26 lines)
  372. Re: Westfalia made trailer for sale (22 lines)
  373. speaking of rear oil seals: end play shims? (21 lines)
  374. Re: Westfalia made trailer for sale - location correction (57 lines)
  375. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (49 lines)
  376. can't go forward (25 lines)
  377. Re: Emissions test failure (38 lines)
  378. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (32 lines)
  379. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (27 lines)
  380. Upgraded house battery bank (45 lines)
  381. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (75 lines)
  382. Re: Import Eligibility (67 lines)
  383. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (41 lines)
  384. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (34 lines)
  385. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (75 lines)
  386. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (62 lines)
  387. Re: Emissioins test failure (40 lines)
  388. Re: Westfalia made trailer for sale - location correction (39 lines)
  389. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (64 lines)
  390. Emissioins test failure (13 lines)
  391. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (55 lines)
  392. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (32 lines)
  393. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (48 lines)
  394. Re: Multimeter Recommendations (46 lines)
  395. Re: Why I love Mercedes Benz but would never own one of their cars (95 lines)
  396. Multimeter Recommendations (22 lines)
  397. Re: Westfalia made trailer for sale - location correction (26 lines)
  398. Re: Prius question with vanagon content-Electric air conditioning-extra wieght! (93 lines)
  399. Re: Essential replacement parts I keep in my camper (43 lines)
  400. Re: Steel coolant lines? (66 lines)
  401. Re: Essential replacement parts I keep in my camper (55 lines)
  402. Re: Steel coolant lines? (29 lines)
  403. Re: Steel coolant lines? (34 lines)
  404. Re: Essential replacement parts I keep in my camper (33 lines)
  405. Re: Steel coolant lines? (29 lines)
  406. Re: Steel coolant lines? (32 lines)
  407. Essential replacement parts I keep in my camper (33 lines)
  408. Re: Prius question with vanagon content-Electric air conditioning (77 lines)
  409. Re: Rear Oil Seal (Flywheel) Leak (55 lines)
  410. Re: Steel coolant lines? (27 lines)
  411. Re: Prius question with vanagon content-Electric air conditioning (70 lines)
  412. Re: Disable power windows? (31 lines)
  413. Re: Rear Oil Seal (Flywheel) Leak (63 lines)
  414. Re: Prius question with vanagon content-Electric air conditioning (46 lines)
  415. Steel coolant lines? (13 lines)
  416. Westfalia made trailer for sale - location correction (14 lines)
  417. Westfalia made trialer for sale (14 lines)
  418. Re: Rear Oil Seal (Flywheel) Leak (19 lines)
  419. Re: Import Eligibility (47 lines)
  420. Re: Why I love Mercedes Benz but would never own one of their cars (25 lines)
  421. Re: Why I love Mercedes Benz but would never own one of their cars (116 lines)
  422. Re: Disable power windows? (22 lines)
  423. The time has come the Walrus said (41 lines)
  424. Re: Why I love Mercedes Benz but would never own one of their cars (95 lines)
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