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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:46:50 -0800
Reply-To:     Mike Miller <mwm@LANSET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike Miller <mwm@LANSET.COM>
Subject:      Re: 411 & 412: 911 of vans?, mullets, was: Porsche 6 cyl
Comments: To: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
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Bulley,

I had some tenants [Yes I was a slumlord, not exactly successful, the only person in history to loose money in Berkeley {CA} real estate] who owned first a new 411. Then when that had some many problems that even the VW Corp had to admit it was bad [and this is before lemon laws in CA] they gave them a trade-in towards a 412.

This vehicle was so much better. It got all the way up to really crappy. Made a Yugo look reliable. It was awful.

Why do you want one? [Plead insanity, on this list that's a slam dunk]

Mike '85 Westy [I'm OK, really. No honestly, I'm fine. There's nothing wrong, I swear. If the little men would just stop shouting in my ear all the time, I'd be great]

----- Original Message ----- From: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:43 PM Subject: 411 & 412: 911 of vans?, mullets, was: Porsche 6 cyl

> Don't even get me started on the 411/412 thing. > > I've had every other type 4, even had the type 3 squareback, (great car)... > I want a 412 SOOOOOOOO badly, and Mom says, "No, a house comes first." > Party pooper. :) > > G. Matthew Bulley > Bulley-Hewlett > Corporate Communications Counselors > www.bulley-hewlett.com > Cary, NC USA > 888.468.4880 tollfree > > "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses > herein and herein contained, et cetera, et cetera . . . fax mentis > incendium gloria culpum, et cetera, et cetera . . . memo bis punitor > delicatum!" It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! -Wonka > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Lindgren [SMTP:lindgre@ONLINE.NO] > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 5:33 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: 911 of vans?, mullets, was: Porsche 6 cyl > > Bulley wrote: > > > Well, that's the first I've heard of the "911 of Vans" comment, but I > know > > that some of the "...this vans gotta Porch motor innit..." comments st > emmed > > from the 1970's sales of the Porsche 914 and 912-E here in the States, > > which featured the 1.7, 1.8. and finally 2.0 air cooled type 4 VW motors. > > >From the same reason, the VWs 411 & 412 Variants (Squarebacks) were called > "Long-Porsches" since they had the same engine as the 914. I asked for some > parts in several junkyards a few years ago, nobody knew the type4 name [ > already forgotten :-( ] but when I called them "Long-Porsches" everybody > went > "AHA!" > > PerL > 87 Syncro 112i


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