Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:29:37 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: Why I am installing a TDI engine...
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Just to clairify things for Michael and the other list members who have
p-mailed me on this issue - I am *not* knocking what Michael is doing - I
think it is great and I agree with all of his reasons and I could also
think of a few more. It will be one hell of a van when it is done! It's
the big pockets and free time factor that I am missing! :)
Once again good luck with this great looking project!
At 08:39 AM 20/01/2000 -0500, Michael J. Sullivan wrote:
>Actually, the reasons I'm REALLY doing it:
>
>1.) the challenge
>2.) the fuel economy (i.e. range)
>3.) the power
>4.) the cool factor
>5.) all-VW solution
>6.) modern engine in the ultimate SUV
>7.) it's a show car, folks
>8.) I love diesels
>
>Would I recommend that anyone else do it?
>Not unless you can justify all seven points above!
>(and you've got some pretty big pockets or lots of free time)
>
>Cheers,
>MJS
>
>
>At 02:06 AM 1/20/00 -0600, Jay & Kim Schmidt wrote:
>>Walmart sells range enhancers really inexpensively. They are red with a
>>spout. Not to rain on your good idea, but this can't be the reason?
>>Jay
>>
>>>For me - the most important benefit of the TDI transplant is the greatly
>>>increased RANGE the vehicle will have.
>>>
>>>The ability to go the distance - can, at a critical time - be so much more
>>>important than the difference in consumption costs.
>>>
>>>Those of you who travel high up in Northern Canada or perhaps deep into the
>>>Aussie outback - or maybe Mexico - will know exactly what I mean.
>>>
>>>Of course - the drivability improvements are good too!
>>>
>>>Marshall Ruskin
>>>84 Westy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Good listing of stats and it all looks very impressive! My only thing
>>>>would be what you are doing is VERY expensive and is above the average and
>>>>even the fanatical Vanagon owner. It is going to take a lot of savings at
>>>>the pump to break even after you finish paying for the transplant. TDIs
>>>>are wonderful engines but I personally wonder if they are worth the hassle
>>>>and expence to get installed.
>>>>
>>>>If I had $5000 US to play with, I would be installing a 2.8L VR6 in the
>>>>back of my Vanagon. 172hp @ 5,800 RPM and 173 ft-lb @ 4200 RPM. The
>>>>installation of the VR6 is not nearly as complicated as the 100% "drive by
>>>>wire" TDI and there is more than enough power in both engines to totally
>>>>destroy your transmission in under six months! There is also the
>>>>"de-tuned" VR6 that is found in the Eurovan - something like 153hp but a
>>>>*heck* of a lot more torque at the bottom end! Yes, the TDI does beat the
>>>>VR6 on bottom end torque, but I am not complaining about the get up and go
>>>>of my 2.0L equipped Syncro.
>>>>
>>>>Please don't take offence to this... just stating my $0.02 worth! Good
>>>>luck with the project - it sounds like lots of fun!
>>>>
>>>>At 09:10 PM 19/01/2000 -0500, Michael J. Sullivan wrote:
>>>>>Dear List,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have created a quickie website explaining, in spreadsheet form, the
>>>>>reasons why a TDI makes so much sense for my Van. I truly believe this
>>>will
>>>>>indeed be the ultimate engine for my Vanagon -- both off and on road.
>>>>>
>>>>>The URL is:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.hsdesign.com/vanagon/why_tdi.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Comments please!
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael J. Sullivan
>>>>>IPS "SWATteam" Architect
>>>>>Open Market, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>>*********************************************
>>>>> phone: 781.359.7624
>>>>> work: http://www.openmarket.com
>>>>> scan tips: http://www.hsdesign.com/scanning
>>>>> vanagon: http://www.hsdesign.com/vanagon
>>>>>*********************************************
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- David Marshall - - Quesnel, BC, Canada --
>>>>-- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet --
>>>>-- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab --
>>>>-- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org --
>>>>-- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca --
>>>>-- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) --
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Michael J. Sullivan
>Marshfield Hills, MA
>Tierra del Fuego 2000 or bust!
>
>'87 VW Vanagon GL Syncro Westfalia "Sunny" (soon to be TDi-powered)
>'89 Audi 200 Turbo Quattro Wagon "Wizard" (soon to be for sale)
>'96 VW Passat TDi "Teddi" (46mpg)
>
>*********************************************
>work: http://www.openmarket.com
>my vanagon: http://www.hsdesign.com/vanagon
>scan tips: http://www.hsdesign.com/scanning
>*********************************************
>
-- David Marshall - - Quesnel, BC, Canada --
-- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet --
-- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab --
-- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org --
-- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca --
-- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) --
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