Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:45:46 -0700
Reply-To: "Eric R. Gougar" <egougar@GTE.NET>
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From: "Eric R. Gougar" <egougar@GTE.NET>
Subject: Re: '87 Vanagon shudders in Reverse
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The old mount is showing signs of cracking, so I don't think I'll be saving
it. A mechanic at the auto craft shop here at WSMR had me move it back and
forth on the lift while he looked at it. He thinks its in the clutch. The
puzzling thing is - why does it only shudder in reverse. I would expect that
if it were the clutch, I'd have a shudder in both directions, right? As for
the rear mounts - the engine moves in a front to back fashion when it shudders,
not side to side or rotation, so it seems like the rear mounts would have
minimal impact on the problem.
Bulley wrote:
> Hold on to your old mount, as the new one WILL eventually fail, producing
> that same shudder...Are you sure all of your rear mounts are okay?
>
> G. Matthew Bulley
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric R. Gougar [SMTP:egougar@gte.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 3:12 PM
> To: Bulley
> Subject: Re: '87 Vanagon shudders in Reverse
>
> Replaced the front transmission mount. Same shudder :-( Time to tear
> the clutch apart again and
> check the flywheel, etc., as Doktor Tim has suggested.... Rats!
>
> Bulley wrote:
>
> > Absolutely. The rubber is what wears out. Common failure at 60-100k.
> >
> > G. Matthew Bulley
> > Bulley-Hewlett
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric R. Gougar [SMTP:egougar@GTE.NET]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 11:34 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: '87 Vanagon shudders in Reverse
> >
> > Just looked at it. Front motor mount is fine, as far as all the bolts
> go. Could it just be worn
> > out - rubber parts wise?
> >
> > Bulley wrote:
> >
> > > Front Motor Mount, on the nose of the Transmission.
> > >
> > > G. Matthew Bulley
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> > > From: Eric R. Gougar [SMTP:egougar@GTE.NET]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 11:08 AM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: '87 Vanagon shudders in Reverse
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I'm new to the list. My name is Eric Gougar (pronounced Gowgar - good
> > > German name). I live at White Sands Missile Range (pronounced wismer)
> > > NM. I'm having a little problem with my beloved '87 brick and was
> > > wondering if any of you could shed some light...
> > >
> > > This is an '87 vanagon gl - 2wd. I replaced the clutch/pressure
> > > plate/TO bearing in July. Recently, I have been having trouble with
> > > reverse. When I shift into reverse and let out the clutch, it shudders
> > > like crazy, and will throw itself back into neutral. If I let the
> > > clutch out quickly, once it is fully engaged, I have plenty of reverse
> > > gear. I have no symptoms in any of the forward gears. I'm puzzled
> > > because I don't think its the tranny, because I have plenty of gear
> once
> > > it's engaged. I don't think its the clutch, because it's new, and
> there
> > > are no problems going forward. Both my rear engine mounts are OK.
> > >
> > > I had someone let the clutch out for me while I looked at the engine to
> > > see if I could see how it was moving. I suspected a rear mount was
> > > loose, and expected to see one side of the engine coming up. What I
> saw
> > > was that the engine was shuddering in a front-to-back motion, not side
> > > to side.
> > >
> > > I'm going to put it up on the lift and look at it this weekend. Any
> > > suggestions as to what I should look for or what the problem might be?
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
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