Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:53:42 -0700
Reply-To:     BILL <billv2@PRODIGY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         BILL <billv2@PRODIGY.NET>
Subject:      Re: Interesting item on eBay web
              siteitem#237685424:VW,AUDI,PORSC...
Comments: To: Mark Drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <38889C92.32B6D97@earthlink.net>

DITO

It has always been a pleasure to deal with Mark and I will so again.

Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of Mark Drillock
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 10:51 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Interesting item on eBay web
> siteitem#237685424:VW,AUDI,PORSC...
>
>
> I too have bought from Mark Upton with good results. I would not
> hesitate to do so again. I agree with the point 2 raised by Alan, better
> to offer parts in an upfront manner.
>
> Mark
>
> "Alan J. Flint" wrote:
> >
> > List:
> >         I dealt with Mark recently and the transaction was quite
> > pleasant.  Item as described, good e-mail responses, quick
> shipping, etc.
> >
> > Mark:
> >         You might do better doing business with Vanagon List members if
> > you:
> > 1)  Contributed in a non-commercial way once in a while, and
> > 2)  Did not introduce your own ebay item auction by saying, in effect,
> > "look what I found for sale on ebay".
> >
> >         Just my opinion, take it or leave it.  And thanks again for the
> > cool VW coveralls and the great service.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Mark Upton wrote:
> >
> > > Before I get anymore YOU Theif e mail.Let me just sey a few
> words.Ken is a very
> > > Vanagon smart guy,I have a lot of respect for him.I was told
> by my FLAPS these
> > > oil filters(MANN W719/5) were for Vanagon,ok?The dealerships
> sell these sell
> > > these for $6.00+.Yes I'm a small business and want to compete
> with Ken and Bus
> > > Depot.But let me make one thing perfectly clear I'm not
> trying to Sucker
> > > anyone.Mark Upton
> > >
> > > Frank Grunthaner wrote:
> > >
> > > > Had to comment here.
> > > >
> > > > The sucker coefficient on eBay is astounding. I found that
> people often pay
> > > > retail or higher (!) for used or opened hardware (from
> computer stuff through
> > > > test equipment, video and auto/stereo hardware on to
> vanagon related items).
> > > > They pay amusing shipping and handling charges (amusing if
> you are not the
> > > > one paying) compared to what a legitimate business charges.
> They often must
> > > > prepay by money order, so there is no fraud recourse.
> Finally, I found many
> > > > businesses placing auction items with an ad for their web
> page. If you follow
> > > > the link you will find the item for sale on their page for
> less than the
> > > > auction reserve amount.
> > > >
> > > > This appears to be a great scam zone, or a very profitable
> point for a low
> > > > volume small business. So Ken, I would suggest it could be
> an easy source of
> > > > cash from the ignorant.
> > > >
> > > > I should also say that I have found a few things such as
> Vanagon Camper model
> > > > kits for which I only paid a factor of 2 over the original retail.
> > > > Unavailable otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > Frank Grunthaner
> > >
>