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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:10:47 EST
Reply-To:     Wolfvan88@AOL.COM
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From:         Robert Lilley <Wolfvan88@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: VW Trends and Eurospec STILL LACK of power...
Comments: To: PaoloD1455@aol.com
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> Is it really all that better? > My Wasserboxer is in the 130HP range and a few other mods 150HP to 200 HP+ > is possible, with all the reliability of a stock.

>>I may have missed it, but did you dynotest your engine after mods? I have not yet because of time and I am working out bugs in my FI system. Before I bought the Vanagon, a wire to the hall sensor cracked and damaged several FI parts. I need to get a Idle control module.

>>That's quite an HP jump, and it's almost impossible to get something for nothing. >>Increased HP=increased drivetrain stress, heat, etc.

Actually I decreased the stress in the engine: counterweighted crank, full balancing, rebuilt parts to exact lengths, matched ported: intake, exhaust, oil pump, careful assembly. All these will decrease the stress, reduce the harmonics, increase bearing life AND increase the HP that is wasted. I then increased the flow of air through the engine from the intake to the exhaust tip. Then I add other T1 HP parts to prevent know T1 AND Wasserboxer failures (remember the Wasserboxer is basically a T1 engine with water jackets). I increased the valve lift, but rather than going to heavier valve springs I lightened the weight the spring has to push to prevent the lose of HP and increased cam wear with heavier springs. I then added the ceramic coatings to protect the engine from the heat and head corrosion.

In the tranny I have an HD four spider diff rather than the stock 2 spider unit. I do not do burn outs so the rest of the drive train should hold up fine.

>>Also, claiming "stock" reliability for a Wasserboxer is not exactly a ringing >>endorsement.

I was referring to the mileage of the engine: many go well over 100,000 miles on the engine NOT the leaking problems.

>>A key to longevity is an overdesigned engine.

That is why I did what I did...

> Notice that the writer SAID that the Eurospec engine power was really no > better than a STOCK Wasserboxer????

>> I think the writer is wrong. And even if he is right, there is a marked >> improvement in drivability (much less shifting) over the WBX.

I SHIFT LESS now than before With my engine, I can go down to 35mph in fifth gear and still accelerate back up to 80 mph. Once I am moving, I am usually in fourth (below 45) or fifth gear, occasionally shifting to third if I slow to a crawl due to traffic.

>> The price? A >> drone from the I-4 (and a much lighter wallet) rather than a more tolerable >> rumble and smoother running.

Not me...

>> Let's face it, if the WBX was a success, VW would have stayed with it,

Unfortunately VW moved to front engine vans. They had a SIX cylinder Wasserboxer that was to come out but went to front engine vans and a company in Germany bought the design. I have heard it is available in Germany somewhere. I have some German VW mags, If I could only read German... There is a 2.5L upgrade kit available from the Projektzwo:

The projektzwo designprogramme is available in the USA from:

1552 Design, 4803-A Eisenhower Avenue, Alexandria, VA 22304 USA Mr. Adrian Jones Tel. 703-461 8511, Fax 703-461 8531

Best regards projektzwo GmbH

You can get all the cool projektzwo stuff.

>> I still miss the smoothness and the sound of my WBX. One day >> soon, I hope to find a Westfalia and make it a project WBX restoration.

I do not...

>> However, for my daily driver, I'll take the I-4 in my Carat, warts and all.

Enjoy your warts and all...However I do not like warts...

On other point, I should be able to pass emmisions with no problems...

Robert


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