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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:33:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject:      CO2 versus Halon: FIRE!!!!!!
Comments: To: "BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM" <BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM>

Ben wrote:>>>>>>> "assuming that I used some foam (or other type of chemical extinguisher) for that engine fire, I would have had to clean or replace quite a bit of those components..." >>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 extinguishers are about the best you can ask for (IMHO) for a vehicle fire.

CO2 doesn't require a closed space, like Halon, and it doesn't leave a mess like foam or dry chem. Beyond choking the fire, CO2 super-cools the surfaces that surround the flame, greatly reducing the possibility of re-ignition. The cooling and sublimation of CO2 lasts for several minutes AFTER you stop extinguishing, as the flakes of dry ice sit on the formerly flaming surfaces.

The extinguishers are cheap, in-expensive to refill ($15 for a 30 lb.), and best of all, do no damage to your car or the environment.

One drawback, they can be large. I carry a 30 lb....enough to extinguish the tail flame on the space shuttle. Smaller versions are available, but I like a little overkill in my insurance policies.

G. Matthew Bulley Bulley-Hewlett Corporate Communications Counselors www.bulley-hewlett.com Cary, NC USA 888.468.4880 tollfree

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-----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Tan [SMTP:BenTbtstr8@AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 4:50 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: FIRE!!!!!!

I knew that it did something to the ozone layer. I actually have not gone through the site other than a cursory view. Saving it for rainy day viewing.

On the argument concerning in favor of it's use, I have about 4-5 of these extinguishers. I have owned them for more than 10 years. In that period of time, I used it once. They don't expire unlike most other extinguisher types.

Now assuming that I used some foam (or other type of chemical extinguisher) for that engine fire, I would have had to clean or replace quite a bit of those components. I wouldn't even know how or try to determine the environmental impact of manufacturing, marketing, delivering those parts would be. Then there's the fact that it would have had some additional environmental impact had I chemical extinguishers recharged during my 10+ years of ownership.

Does that make any sense?

BenT


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