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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:48:46 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: 1.8T conversions
Comments: To: daveb@CP.NET
In-Reply-To:  <38891EF5.12160BFD@cp.net>
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The fact that the 1.8L Turbo will only work with the Fast Forward kit doesn't really bother me! :)

Seriously though, you are right, you will have to modify the engine lid for the 1.8L Turbo, 1.8L G60 (158hp) or the VR6 (174hp) - infact all inline four engine need a modified engine lid with my kit - it seems that 115hp would be the maximum that you install using a kit that mounts the engine at a 50 degree angle.

For those who are worried about the rear deck lid I do offer hinges that allow the bed to be 3" higher when it is in the folded down position and 0" high in the seat position. Hence I have no problems in my 1984 Westie.

Also, if you are looking for a 1.8L Turbo engine, get one from a Passat or Audi. The Golf IV and New Beetle engines are 100% drive by wire like the TDIs and they are a LOT more complicated to get running in a "primitive" Vanagon.

At 07:07 PM 21/01/2000 -0800, Dave Bayer wrote: >David Marshall wrote: >> >> If you want power, install an Audi A4 or VW Passat 1.8L Turbo engine. 150hp >> plus a lot of FLAT torque... these engines arn't THAT expensive or that >> hard to install. > > They are also offered in the new Beetles. These might work fine >with the fast forward kits, but it doesn't appear that either >intake manifold will fit under the deck lid with the stock diesel motor >mounts, mounting bars, and bellhousing. I also talked to a local >mechanic >who said the head itself wouldn't clear the lid. It's a really neat >engine >though! New models are totally drive by wire. > > Heat from the turbo shouldn't be a problem (there are lots >of TD out there and while gas engines run with a bit more waste heat, >I would doubt that it's going to be enough to melt your deck lid and >since the motor is running). Since it is a turbo, the exhaust system >is greatly simplied, and since it's a cross flow head, you don't >have any problems with interference on the left engine wall and the >intake manifold. Don't know how the coolant system outlets look >on the head/block though - the ones I looked at were all at dealer >lots with the plastic covers on the engines... Hrm, the turbo would >require a modified left/rear motor mount if you were using the >stock diesel mounts, and you probably need a strengthened clutch >kit (these things put out as much torque as the TDIs). > > Prices seem to be about the same as TDI engines - I was >quoted $3500 for a complete engine, engine management cruft, smog >cruft and exhaust system (to use for measurement possibles only >really). I know a guy who is on the audilist who got a shipment >of complete new engines (for audi conversions I would guess) and >was selling them for $3000 - however I don't know if that would >then include smog stuff nor do I know if he has any left. This >is really an ideal engine for a syncro as you don't NEED to >regear the tranny, but you can gear and go to larger tires for >fuel economy (you can time the regearing to coincide with the >120K*n rebuilds that these trannies are rumored to need anyway). > > Had this engine appeared to fit under the deck lid, I >would have researched the conversion a bit more to verify coolant >connections and motor mounts will work (the block looks the same >as the regular 1.8 blocks, however the mounting points in the >passat are different than the mounting points used in A1 and A2 >cars with the 1.8). However, the head appears not to fit, and >I want my deck lid to stay stock... > >dave > >

-- David Marshall - - Quesnel, BC, Canada -- -- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet -- -- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab -- -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- -- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) --


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