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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:37:39 -0700
Reply-To:     BILL <billv2@PRODIGY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         BILL <billv2@PRODIGY.NET>
Subject:      Re: archives?????
Comments: To: Bill Nolan <bill@FREEHOLDER.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.32.20000130203850.01321594@mail.ipns.com>

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Nolan

> First, using the archives is slow and frustrating. Most searches I have > tried fail. I have the instructions for doing a search by email, but > haven't tried that yet. Perhaps it works better. >

A problem does exist. This does seem to be the consensus. The only problem I have is time. It usually takes too long. Can we set up a new library system on Gerry?? Or is the only way to improve it is to upgrade the hardware? Or do we just leave it alone?

> More importantly, I think of this as a community of friends and fellow > Vanagon owners. When people have a problem or question, asking their

I agree.

> friends is a popular way to begin the search for an answer. I live in a > rural area. If I ask one of my neighbors what kind of fencing I need to > keep goats from escaping, and his reply is, "somebody answered that just > last year, so go look it up on www.goatfence.com," I wouldn't find that to > be a friendly response. >

email cannot be compared to talking to someone in person. There is alot left out including body language. Maybe next generation software can improve this <shrug> <sigh> <pull my finger> <grin>.

> I think list members need to decide what kind of list is desired. If it's > to be only for old cronies to meet and discuss the latest "in" > joke, that's > fine. However, if we want newcomers to feel welcome, we will have to > realize that the same problems tend to come up over and over. There are > probably almost no "new" problems on a Vanagon. Almost every > message I see > on here relates to an issue that has been previously discussed and is > probably in the archives.

You left out of my email the rest of the post which gave the listmember the info he needed besides searching the archives. While my response seemed blunt and to the point...What did you expect from a tired old frustrated old man <grin> From the number of pmail responses I got, we do have a problem with the archives. Do we fix it? Can we borrow from the type2 list? If I seemed ruff on Mr. Webb, I do apologize for it was not directed at him.

Bill

> > At 12:32 PM 1/30/00 -0700, BILL wrote: > >Why don't volks use the archives. Is accessing them that > difficult? If it is > >we need to address this problem. > > Bill (SE Arizona) (Bill@freeholder.com) HTTP://www.freeholder.com > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Censorship is the assassination of ideas. No matter how well-meaning its > proponents may be, they are more dangerous to us than any outside enemy. >


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