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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:43:34 -0500
Reply-To:     Dominique Cormann <kozmik@HOME.COM>
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From:         Dominique Cormann <kozmik@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Fw: Kleen-Flo Diesel Conditioner
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Got word back from Kleenflo regarding the alcohol issue.

The guy is in marketing, so I'll forgive his ignorance about canada and the fact that we are only allowed to use low sulfur diesel here since 1994. He didn't seem to be aware thats is a law here...oh well. But he explained the other issues with the alcohols with similar logic to what others have explained. Thank you guys for writing about your experiences with different alcohols used as additives in the diesel fuel. It nows seems fairly clear to me that the alcohol works effectively at absorbing water, and thawing gelled fuel or working as an antigell if it hasn't froze. It also looks like people should be looking for isopropyl alcohol based products or glycol based products as opposed to methanol (methyl hydrate), but even in a pinch this stuff could be used...

Now I'm hoping Power service will write back. I'm interested in hearing what they have to say. Curious if they will deny the obvious, or if they admit it, how they will explain why the bottle says what it says.

Forwarded by Dominique Cormann <kozmik@home.com> ---------------- Original message follows ---------------- From: chris <chris@kleenflo.com> To: kozmik@home.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:20:50 -0500 Subject: Kleen-Flo Diesel Conditioner --

Dear Dominique,

Thank-you for your e-mail and your interest in Kleen-Flo products. Please find below the answers to your questions.

-There are safe alcohols and not so safe alcohols. Methyl Hydrate is a widely used alcohol that burns extremely hot and can have adverse affects on injectors, seals and internal parts. Isopropanol Alcohol is far safer and is an active ingredient in our two diesel conditioners. It helps to absorb moisture and lower the pour point of diesel fuel. Kleen-Flo also adds cleaning agents, lubricators and anti-corrosion additives.

-The main differences between our two diesel conditioners is one is designed for low sulphur diesel fuel and the treatment ratio. The regular conditioner treats 2270litres and the low sulphur formula treats 500litres.

-Low sulphur diesel fuel was introduced in California in the mid 80's. It was developed to help decrease the amount of emissions from diesel engines. The only side effect was that it dried out fuel pumps. Hence the need for low sulphur formula additives and conditioners. In Canada the availability of low sulphur fuel is different from town to town. Esso for example sells low sulphur diesel fuel exclusively.

-Kleen-Flo's new Diesel Lubricant(2L treats 3000L) is designed specifically to combat the effects of low sulphur diesel fuel. It can be mixed with our other products and should be used all year round. It is not as affective as our other products in absorbing water and line freezing.

-OEM's are finally acknowledging that there is a problem with low sulphur fuel and are starting to recommend the use of additives such as Kleen-Flo's.

Should you have any other questions or require further technical information, please feel free to contact me at 1-800-216-7778 ext.238, or at chris@kleenflo.com.

Kindest regards,

Chris Osborne Marketing Manager


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