Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:08:24 -0500
Reply-To: Bill James <bija_ca@YAHOO.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Bill James <bija_ca@YAHOO.CA>
Subject: Re: What is the price of gasoline in your town??
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Following this thread has caused some pondering. I
wonder whether it is conscionable (sp?) to be a human
being in 2000, live in a large city, drive a Vanagon,
love nature and still figure out some way to live in
harmony with sustainable protection of the planet's
ecosystem. The proliferation of human civilisation,
in particular to this thread, the internal combustion
engine, has led to oil madness. The quest for oil has
directly led to conflict and war and this goes on as
we breathe. In Sudan and Nigeria particularly. The
oil crisis of the 70's led to a whole lot of new (and
old) renewable and alternative energy sources. Many
positive things were developed as a result of the
crisis in oil supplies. We are at an unprecidented
point of technological development and could move
rapidly towards signifcant change if we decided to.
We are also nearing a crisis no less than the fate of
our air, rivers, oceans and endangered species. There
are few reasons that I can see to hang on to
technologies from the 19th century which can only
cause further harm. If we do not begin to act more
quickly to transform and innovate we will perish.
Sorry for the rant. . .not a Friday Funny.
Bill James
Not driving today.
Carpooled yesterday.
Americans have the lowest fuel taxes in the world and
the highest consumption.
--- Josh Monson <jmonson@USWEBCKS.COM> wrote:
> is this a VW mailing list or what?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe L. [mailto:jliasse@TOAST.NET]
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:40 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: What is the price of gasoline in your
> town??
>
>
> Pig, chicken and cattle feed lots are NOT
> products of nature, as are
> cities. Hell-holes? Sure, but MAN MADE hell-holes.
> Again, I DO NOT advocate a return to the Horse and
> Buggy days, only that, if
> the US population were catagorized and ranked by
> polution per individual I
> am quite certain the Amish would be near or at the
> bottom of the list while
> we of the Vanagon crowd would be a whole lot closer
> to the SUV owner
> catagory than would be comfortable most of us who
> complain of them.
> Rather like the person who discusses the drug
> problem with a drink in his
> hand, the obese congressman citing the hazards of
> smoking or the starlet
> mourning the plight of the homeless while wearing a
> million dollars in
> diamonds. The words may be correct but there is
> still something wrong with
> this picture.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List
> [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of byard
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:00 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: What is the price of gasoline in your
> town??
>
>
> Just because something is biodegradable doesn't mean
> it doesn't contain
> toxins and isn't harmful over a certain quantity.
> Ever been near a pig, chicken, or cattle feed lot?
> They aren't garden
> spots, they are pollution centers and are beginning
> to be regulated as
> such.
> Before the auto, cities were stinking, disease laden
> hell-holes of horse
> shit.
>
> ----------
> > From: Joe L. <jliasse@TOAST.NET>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: What is the price of gasoline in your
> town??
> > Date: Thursday, February 24, 2000 9:00 PM
> >
> > The ultimate in biodegradable emissions.
> Supremely natural,
> containing
> > nothing to harm and everything to nourish our
> environment. Thus, a thing
> of
> > beauty.
> >
>
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