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Date:         Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:56:56 -0800
Reply-To:     "Charles \"Luke\" Lukey" <luke@SEANET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Charles \"Luke\" Lukey" <luke@SEANET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Toyota Woes
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@IBM.NET>
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David:

Why isn't the replacement part adjustable like the original? I've made these kind of decisions for a construction equipment manufacturer. Here's three possible reasons:

1. Manufacturability - an adjustable anything is harder to build than a set anything.

2. Warranty claims - manufacturers watch the failure rates of parts very carefully. If this part develops a bad reputation, and these days it doesn't take much, that part is evaluated, changes are made.

3. Dumb luck. After purchasing a million dollar computerized machining cell to handle a major problem, you discover that there is capacity available to handle minor problems, like building non-adjustable widgets that work better.

The biggest shift in thinking I had to make in this job was a reverse of E Pluribus Unum. Instead of looking at one failed part, I had to consider the economics of many identical parts.

Happy Motoring!

Charles "Luke" Lukey Seattle, WA

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of David Beierl Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:01 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Toyota Woes

Our Toyota Corolla wagon just broke down with only 122k on the clock. Oil light at hot idle, oh dear. This required me to stop my continual working on Dutiful Passage (required VG content <g>) to attend to the failure. It was a bad sender -- as usual the diaphragm was leaking oil into the upper part of the sender. Cost $3 at the FLAPS. The engine itself had close to 20 psi at hot idle.

The reason I'm mentioning this other than to lampoon (lambaste?) our beloved beasts, is that when I cut the top off the old sender to verify the cause of the problem (yep, oil in the upper chamber), I noticed that the terminal on top of this OE sender screwed off, and underneath it was a screwdriver adjustment to set the trigger pressure over a fairly wide range. You can bet that the replacement didn't have this little refinement. But I'm surely wondering why Nippon-Denso or whoever bothered -- do they make one sender and adjust it at the factory for whatever pressure the customer desires? They could do it with a robot easily enough, no need to involve a person. It would save stocking different strength springs. But...butbutbut...why? A robot would cost more than a whole lot of springs, and doing it by hand would be ferociously expensive. I'm sure their spring-making industry keeps close enough tolerances for this job. Just machining the hex and screw threads on the terminal didn't come free.

Anyone have a notion? I don't belong to the Corolla list <g>.

d David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation"


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