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Date:         Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:29:50 -0500
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@IBM.NET>
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From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bentley Manuals on CD-ROM :)
Comments: To: Tobin Copley <tobin.copley@ubc.ca>
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At 05:05 PM 3/1/2000 , Tobin Copley wrote: I believe Lief may be referring to the '10"' (actually 250mm, so a little less) floppy drives manufactured under the Ubermodernwerk brand

"Supermodernfactory?" Was it housed in the Trabby plant?

and sold only in East Germany for about a year, around 1981, if I recall. They were single-sided, half-density, and held 22K of data.

Kewl!

They were discontinued due to design problems and poor manufacturing quality control.

Just like the 2/3-height 5 1/4" BASF drives I helped build. Interesting example there of engineering myopia -- the original Shugart 8" had an H-frame to clamp the disk when you shoved the drive door down. When they started making 5 1/4 drives, everybody did the same. BASF essentially folded the mechanism in half to get a 2/3 height drive, but the leverage was incredible and the puck too shallow to center properly. There matters stood until some bright spark at Tandon thought of using a rotating cam to operate the clamp. They came out with a half-height 8", and within a year everybody was building half-height 5 1/4 drives too. That worked, unlike the BASF units.

The drive units were plagued with problems; for example, the vacuum tubes used in them were of poor quality, and the drive motor created a considerable magnetic field itself, often erasing data as the drive spun.

Gee, at 22K per disk they could have used a pencil and eraser...prolly would have taken the heat better too. What size tubes, do you know? Did they use a stepper? How many tubes? How big was it physically? Where can I get one?

>As a matter of fact, I have a pile of these old 250mm disks, which I >acquired through a surplus outfit here. The tight, lint-free weave of the >disks' battleship grey canvas fabric protective cover

Canvas? Canvas?? Oi vey. I would just *love* to see one.

>Just thought I'd help clarify the discussion regarding the 10" >drives. Nice to see that Lief isn't the only listee with an interest in >early computer hardware!

Amazing. Obviously the Deutsche Methode inaction (or is it "in action?").

:) david

David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation"


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