Date:         Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:51:43 -0800
Reply-To:     Mark Mages <wasserbox@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mark Mages <wasserbox@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: shocks
Comments: To: "Michael J. Sullivan" <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
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good point... Bilstein is strange.. their "sports" are
stiffer than their HD's.  I have ridden in cars with
straight bilsteins, and they are stiffer than my
KYB's.  Not as stiff as the HD's (and I have
progressive competition lowering springs, and 50
series tires on 15" rims which aren't conducive to a
cushy ride) but stiffer than KYBs.  There are not
really any shocks that are going to stop body roll on
a vanagon though.  I don't think a 55mm sway bar could
do that :)  It is a toaster on little tiny wheels with
a high center of gravity.

In the end it's all a matter of preference.

What mail program do you use?  Every time I read a msg
from you it has no content but "RTF message" which I
have to open as an attachment.  Just curious.


Mark



--- "Michael J. Sullivan" <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
wrote:
> Dear Mark,
>
>
> The key problem with your statement is "Bilstein HD"
> -- they are super stiff!!  "Normal" Bilsteins are
> beautiful shocks, very responsive without being
> harsh.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> MJS
>
>
>
>
>
> At 02:03 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Mark Mages wrote:
>
> >Are you LOONY?
>
> >Not to be rude, but have you ever had bilsteins on
> a
>
> >car?  You say KYB's are too harsh, but then
> recommend
>
> >Bilsteins???  The KYB's are cadillac shocks
> compared
>
> >to bilsteins.  My 'rocco has bilstein HD's, and I
> have
>
> >to watch out for potholes for fear of having my
> teeth
>
> >jarred out of my head.  They are great shocks if
> you
>
> >are planning on taking corners in your van at
> 95mph,
>
> >but I personally wouldn't recommend them on a van.
>
> >Maybe if all your vanagon sees are highways (GOOD
>
> >highways), but if you ever go on dirt roads...
>
> >
>
> >Also, there is the little matter of $115ish a shock
> vs
>
> >KYB's $26.  I know you said "if money is not an
>
> >object", but.......
>
>
>
>
>
> <bold>Michael J. Sullivan
>
> </bold>Marshfield Hills, MA
>
> Central America 2001 or bust!
>
>
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> be TDi-powered)
>
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>
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>
>
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=====
Mark

87 Westfalia Gl
84 Scirocco 8v

http://student.fortlewis.edu/~mwmages/

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