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Date:         Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:10:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Paul Borghese <paul98@PRODIGY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Paul Borghese <paul98@PRODIGY.NET>
Organization: Prodigy Internet
Subject:      Re: Antifreeze Sauna
Comments: To: - Lauren Pelzer <VeeDubVan@AOL.COM>
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Taking the seat out is not a big deal but I can not figure out why he would need to remove the carpeting. The most suspect place as to where the steam is originating is from behind the rear seat which is very accessible. This may be a dumb question but do they know that the seat lifts up? I one time spent two hours at Pep-Boys stranded 300 miles from home while a bunch of mechanics looked at my Van. Only to have the mechanic come out two hours later confessing that they could not find the battery (step one remove ground cable from battery...). You should be able to remove the box surrounding the rear heater with a screw driver and ratchet set.

I an very leery with the secondary heater. Last year I was driving from North Carolina to Atlanta and found a Vanagon on the side of the road with smoke pouring out. I jumped out with my fire extinguisher to find the smoke was from the rear heater box. The entire thing was on fire and starting to engulf the Van! By using the extinguisher through the now melted lower vent, we were able to extinguish the fire. The Van looked quite salvageable with just some smoke damage and a destroyed seat. Of course another few minutes and the van would have been a total loss. Just like in your case there was a huge amount of steam from the anti-freeze, mixed with the real smoke was quite an impressive site.

I looked at the dash and noticed that the rear heater was turned on. So it looked as if the fan was running and somehow caught on fire. I have not used my rear heater since :-).

Do not ignore the problem just realize to get to the rear heater is a 5 minute job (20 minutes if you seat is filled to the rim with stuff like mine :-) requiring a screw driver and ratchet set. You may want to take a look yourself before paying $60/hr to have someone else do it.

Best of luck,

Paul Borghese

----- Original Message ----- From: - Lauren Pelzer <VeeDubVan@AOL.COM> Newsgroups: groupstudy.vanagon Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 7:01 PM Subject: Antifreeze Sauna

> Hi! I'm hoping someone out there can shed some light on my problem: > > My '85 Vanagon overheated the other day, and became a sauna of steam smelling > strongly of coolant. The steam came from the secondary heater vent under > the rear seat. I'm guessing it's the heater core. I can't emphasize how > much steam there was...it poured out of the open windows for at least 10 > minutes after shutdown. > > Anyway - it is in the shop now. Not my regular shop, but these guys have > worked on the van before. They called today and told me that it was going > to take longer than expected because (and here is my concern) they need to > take out the seats and pull back the carpeting to get to where the steam is > coming in. > > I realize that the Vanagon is engineered like nothing else, but...I'm very > nervous about this. It just seems to me there's got to be a better way. Has > anyone else experienced this? If so, I'd appreciate any light you can shed! > > Thanks so much! > Lauren > ---


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