Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:25:14 -0400
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From: Zoran Mladen <Zoran_Mladen@AMSINC.COM>
Subject: Re: Bizarre starter problems pt.II
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VW has had starter problems on many vehicles, particularly automatic
Golfs/Jettas/Rabbits. The problem is voltage loss to the starter. To correct
this, Bosch created a relay kit (part number WR1) that you add in line. Uses
four wires. (1) You use the lead going to the starter as the feed trigger
mechanism for the relay (2) ground it to any ground (3) hotwire directly from
the battery - actually for the vanagon you could tie this directly to the large
hot wire on the starter that comes from the battery (4) output goes to the
starter to where the original lead went.
There is enough voltage to trip the relay, but not always enough to run the
starter, especially on older starters. I've added this to a number of
Golfs/Jettas and it fixed the problem right away. The problem with Vanagons is
that the wire supplying juice to the starter is so long, voltage loss takes
When installed, you can attach this relay and the additional wires to anywhere -
I use plactis tie straps.
Terry Kay <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET> on 04/01/2000 11:34:11 PM
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Subject: Bizarre starter problems pt.II
No, the solenoid does nothing, until I jump the two poles, and then it
However there is a new twist to this weird problem.
This afternoon, I decided to see if the feed wire to the solenoid, off
the neutral safety switch is powering the starter properly.
I slid the R/H seat forward, exposed the battery, took a alligator
clipped jumper wire, hooked it to the positive terminal,and also to the
feed wire at the safety switch, turned on the ignition, and bingo it
I figured, no problem here, so I hooked up the wire back where it
belongs and hit the key about 8 times, and the darn thing started every
Now I'm really scratching my head!
Might be a intermittent bad contact in the safety switch, might be a
intermittent break in the wire, who knows?
God, I hate electrical nightmares!
Anyone have any ideas?