Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:41:10 -0600
Reply-To: Gary Shea <shea@GTSDESIGN.COM>
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From: Gary Shea <shea@GTSDESIGN.COM>
Subject: Re: Haynes manual for diesel vanagon? (buyer beware...)
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Mr. Sawyer --
I appreciate you posting back to the list so I can reply in public.
I sent the list mail requesting a Bentley for an '85- diesel, since
I needed a manual for my 1.6L TD from an '85 Quantum.
I received an email from you with the following header:
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:45:46 -0400
From: Horace K. Sawyer <email@example.com>
To: Gary Shea <shea@GTSDESIGN.COM>
Subject: Re: WTB: '85-? Bentley for diesel Jetta/Quantum/Golf etc.
Pretty obvious what I wanted. You were asking $25 for this manual, plus
$10 shipping. I accidentally sent you a check for $40 (since I had
just checked Amazon and found that the exact same manual was $40 there).
You did indeed send me two manuals, a Bentley for Rabbit/Jetta
1977-1984 (which I already had a copy of) and a Haynes for diesel
Rabbit 1977-1984. Not what I wanted but an understandable mistake.
The only reason I would bother to bring this up in a public forum
is that when I sent you (at least two) emails explaining that these
were not the manuals I wanted and that I wanted to send them back
to you and undo the deal, you did not reply to my mail. I expect
better than that from list folks.
From my perspective this is "just the facts, Ma'am".
On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Horace K. Sawyer wrote:
> Uhh, Gary, you are dead wrong my man. Last year you bought a Bentley
> manual from me specifically for Rabbit diesel, which is what you wanted as
> I recall, and I threw in another one for free. Haynes, I think. I
> thought I was doing you a favor. Now they are "useless" manuals? "Wrong"
> manuals? Why did you ask to buy them from me? I did something to you "on
> purpose?" This is ridiculous. What have you been smoking out there?
> I have posted to this list countless times during the past year, and you
> just now decide to slander my name.
> Nice of you to show your "appreciation."
> PS- And . . .
> don't make me have to get VWfrank after you. You will be sorry.
> At 04:38 PM 4/4/00 -0600, Gary Shea wrote:
> >On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Horace K. Sawyer wrote:
> >> I have one for the diesel -- $10 plus shipping to the first who wants
> >> Its brand new, not even any grease from my paws
> >> HK
> >Careful folks, this is the guy that sent me the wrong manuals (on
> >purpose as far as I can tell, after all the first half-dozen mails
> >we exchanged had the manual description in the subject!), kept the
> >excess when I accidentally sent him a check for more than we'd agreed on,
> >and refused to respond to my e-mails when I tried to discuss giving
> >him back the useless manuals and about the excess amount of the
> >check. The envelopes the manuals were shipped in came embossed with
> >the stamp of the law firm of Sawyer and Sawyer... how's that for
> >a bit of black humor?
> > Gary Shea