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Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:41:10 -0600
Reply-To:     Gary Shea <shea@GTSDESIGN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <>
From:         Gary Shea <shea@GTSDESIGN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Haynes manual for diesel vanagon? (buyer beware...)
Comments: To: "Horace K. Sawyer" <firestream@MINDSPRING.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <4.1.20000404210624.009fb7d0@>
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Mr. Sawyer --

I appreciate you posting back to the list so I can reply in public. I sent the list mail requesting a Bentley for an '85- diesel, since I needed a manual for my 1.6L TD from an '85 Quantum.

I received an email from you with the following header:

Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:45:46 -0400 From: Horace K. Sawyer <> To: Gary Shea <shea@GTSDESIGN.COM> Subject: Re: WTB: '85-? Bentley for diesel Jetta/Quantum/Golf etc.

Pretty obvious what I wanted. You were asking $25 for this manual, plus $10 shipping. I accidentally sent you a check for $40 (since I had just checked Amazon and found that the exact same manual was $40 there). You did indeed send me two manuals, a Bentley for Rabbit/Jetta 1977-1984 (which I already had a copy of) and a Haynes for diesel Rabbit 1977-1984. Not what I wanted but an understandable mistake.

The only reason I would bother to bring this up in a public forum is that when I sent you (at least two) emails explaining that these were not the manuals I wanted and that I wanted to send them back to you and undo the deal, you did not reply to my mail. I expect better than that from list folks.

From my perspective this is "just the facts, Ma'am".

Gary Shea

On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Horace K. Sawyer wrote: > Uhh, Gary, you are dead wrong my man. Last year you bought a Bentley > manual from me specifically for Rabbit diesel, which is what you wanted as > I recall, and I threw in another one for free. Haynes, I think. I > thought I was doing you a favor. Now they are "useless" manuals? "Wrong" > manuals? Why did you ask to buy them from me? I did something to you "on > purpose?" This is ridiculous. What have you been smoking out there? > > I have posted to this list countless times during the past year, and you > just now decide to slander my name. > > Nice of you to show your "appreciation." > > HK > > > PS- And . . . > don't make me have to get VWfrank after you. You will be sorry.


> > At 04:38 PM 4/4/00 -0600, Gary Shea wrote: > >On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Horace K. Sawyer wrote: > >> I have one for the diesel -- $10 plus shipping to the first who wants > >> > >> Its brand new, not even any grease from my paws > >> > >> HK > > > >Careful folks, this is the guy that sent me the wrong manuals (on > >purpose as far as I can tell, after all the first half-dozen mails > >we exchanged had the manual description in the subject!), kept the > >excess when I accidentally sent him a check for more than we'd agreed on, > >and refused to respond to my e-mails when I tried to discuss giving > >him back the useless manuals and about the excess amount of the > >check. The envelopes the manuals were shipped in came embossed with > >the stamp of the law firm of Sawyer and Sawyer... how's that for > >a bit of black humor? > > > > Gary Shea >

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