Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (April 2000, week 4)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:43:16 -0700
Reply-To:     Mark Drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mark Drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tire Carriers Again
Comments: To: Kapitan Ray Nemo <Volksiebus@NETSCAPE.NET>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Kapitan Ray Nemo wrote: >> >>No apparent cooling problems? >>

Gee, where is YOUR support for THIS? How do you know there were no apparent cooling problems? No steam gushing as you went by?

A friend who accompanied me to Baja with one of these V8 setups stopped along the way to remove his front spare on a hot day. He said it made a big difference but he had a big camper shell and was towing a trailer.

Anyway, there is a fundamental difference between the old V8 cooling systems and the Vanagon. The V8s have a mechanical fan mounted on the front of the engine. This fan turns all of the time the engine is running and pulls air through the radiator. This is an inefficient design as the engine turns the fan even when road speed would otherwise provide enough air flow. Mounting a tire in front of the V8 radiator will block some of the air that the forward motion of the vehicle would provide but the fan is always turning and pulling air around the tire and through large grill and radiator. In Vanagons the radiator fan is electric and only runs when the coolant leaving the radiator is too hot, indicating not enough air flow without the fan, i.e., idling or moving slowly. Blocking the air flow with a spare would result in the electric fan running more often. As long as the surface area of the remaining unblocked grill area is adequate to supply all of the air that the fan needs at its highest speed, and the fan along with it's temp switches are working properly, no overheating should occur. The grill area of the Vanagon is not that large so it would be best to mount the spare with a little clearance between it and the grill to keep from reducing the air intake surface area. Be prepared for the fan to run much more often and wear out faster and the A/C may shut off due to excessive heat and pressure. Vanagons with A/C disable the A/C compressor whenever the fan is running at high speed and you should expect this to happen more often with a spare up front, especially on hot days.

Mark

Kapitan Ray Nemo wrote: > > Any support for this other than speculation? I've seen 'Mericun trucks and > vans (I'm not talking corvair greenbriers, I mean vehicles with front > radiators) with spare tires mounted on the front. No apparent cooling > problems? Why would our vanagons be different? > > I know this is a rehash of an old thread, but I don't believe anyone actually > responded to this. > > TIA, > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > > "Any front mounted tire hanger for a >'70's VW bus could be adapted to > > your Vanagon since those wheels are the >same as the Vanagon, but you have > > the issue of restricting air flow through the radiator. " > > > > This is a non-issue since you just can't do this. It will really mess up > the > > air flow needed for radiator cooling. Not to do. > > > > Bill > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.