Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:59:50 -0400
Reply-To: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject: Re: Not exactly, was: A rod bender?
Big differences in the available torque in a push start vs. your 12v
starter motor.
4,000 lbs rolling 7 miles per hour could easily bend a rod. Agreed. Our
kindred Vanagon owner didn't say, however that he had push-started his van,
only that he had cranked it.
G. Matthew Bulley
Bulley-Hewlett
Corporate Communications Counselors
www.bulley-hewlett.com
Mount Olive, NC USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Miller [SMTP:mwm@LANSET.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:24 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Not exactly, was: A rod bender?
Most easy to do, bending the rod, that is. At least in a BMW. Mechanic
friend of mine here, Sacramento, has rebuilt [or thrown out] several
engines
where the injector stuck open, flooded the cylinder and [usually] was push
started. Well, they tried to push start.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bulley" <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 12:36 PM
Subject: Not exactly, was: A rod bender?
> Stuart wrote:
> "I doubt that you bent a rod cranking the engine, but it is possible."
>
> I agree with Stuart, I don't think you bent a rod cranking the engine
with
> gas in the cylinders, but there again, NASA didn't think the Space
Shuttle
> would blow up...
>
> I disagree with Stuart (who may have just been ribbing you when he wrote:
> "The only way to know without taking the engine apart is that it will
break
> someday while you are driving down the highway, abruptly ending your trip
> and completely destroying the engine.").
>
> If you bent a rod, you would know it immediately in the way the engine
> runs. Much rougher. The compression will be much lower on the cylinder
(s)
> with the bent rods.
>
> No bent rods around here,
>
> G. Matthew Bulley
> Bulley-Hewlett
> Corporate Communications Counselors
> www.bulley-hewlett.com
> Mount Olive, NC USA
> 877.658.1278 tollfree
>
> "I, the undersigned, shall forfeit all rights, privileges, and licenses
> herein and herein contained, et cetera, et cetera . . . fax mentis
> incendium gloria culpum, et cetera, et cetera . . . memo bis punitor
> delicatum!" It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal!
-Wonka
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart MacMillan [SMTP:stuart@COBALTGROUP.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:17 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: A rod bender?
>
> I don't exactly understand how gas got into your cylinders. The fuel
> pressure regulator is connected to the injectors, and cannot directly
> dump fuel inside the engine. If the part itself split in half gas would
> flow out on top of the engine. Do a bit more troubleshooting here to
> find out how the fuel got into the engine.
>
> Injectors should be able to hold the full fuel pump pressure for at
> least a minute with only a drop or less leaking out, so you might have a
> leaky injector. I am not as familiar with your later vintage model, if
> you have a cold start injector that could be leaking also.
>
> I doubt that you bent a rod cranking the engine, but it is possible.
> The only way to know without taking the engine apart is that it will
> break someday while you are driving down the highway, abruptly ending
> your trip and completely destroying the engine.
> --
> Stuart MacMillan
> Manager, Case Program
> 800-909-8244 ext. 8208
> Fax: 206-269-6360
>
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