Date:         Tue, 23 May 2000 14:08:17 PDT
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From:         "robot ." <robot_works@HOTMAIL.COM>
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People on Holy Crusades usually spend 40 years wandering the desert because
they cannot see their nose in front of their face.

I work for a company that has a policy of hating Microwhoevertheyare. So
they use FreeBSD, the use Bugzilla, they use Star Office, they use CVS.. all
free and all racking up incredable amounts of engineering time to make them
work. Not even make them work together, just keeping them functional.

SO what do I use? Word, Excel, Microsoft Project, and a handfull of other
commercially available SW packages that work, and work well, on Windows NT.
Why? So I can concentrate on the objective, which is getting the product out
the door.

BTW - I use Netscape 4.72 for my mail server. It has issues, but not many.
And it handles HTML just fine, thank you.

BTW2 - And why should the internet look the same to everyone? Sounds boring.

tim o'brien


>For those of us who believe that standards are necessary, the internet is
>was/is based
>on standards. Standards developed way before there was a company built
>on the concept that standards are meant to be broken; every day. They are
>available
>to anyone who wants to look them up and use them.
>
>Email is defined by the internet standard as text based, ascii only, files.
>It does not
>allow for HTML, or MIME, or any of the other variants so stupidly
>introduced
>by
>the behemoth for the purpose of locking people into its method of thinking.
>
>There are all kinds of standards for internet usage, such as the TCPIP
>protocol, and
>methods of transmission. To not adhere to accepted standards fractures the
>structure
>of the internet and causes all kinds of problems for users and basically
>means that it
>is NOT a free and open architecture. Then users end up  bickering and
>arguing amongst themselves. No productivity in that, is there?
>
>I don't use microsoft products except when forced to do so by an employer.
>Those
>of us who choose other than M$ get particularly peeved when standards are
>broken
>for no apparent reason, other than because "I can" Other operating systems
>are built
>around the accepted internet standards we have, and when someone with a
>large
>base such as M$ deliberately goes out and breaks the rules, it costs a lot
>of people a
>lot of time and frustration. Witness this discussion :)
>
>The internet should look the same for every user so that everyone can take
>advantage of it without bowing to the mighty man from Redmond. If folks
>continue to
>just go along, why not just give the whole damn thing to gates and get it
>over with??
>
>Anybody ever heard of Lynx?
>
>Gee, and its not even friday, but notice I didn't mention the "G" word :-)
>
>Regards from Utah,
>
>John
>

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