Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:14 -0700
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: Subaru vs. VW Swap
In-Reply-To: <3926CD89.54F6194B@adelphia.net>
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I have a customer who is installing a 1998 Passat 1.8T in to his Vanagon.
He is going to leave it stock for now, but a chip will bump it to 180hp.
Switching to the larger K04 turbo and a different chip will give you 240hp.
The problem with the chips and larger turbos is it destroys the flat
torque "curve" these engines have. MAXIMUM torque is a constant 155 ft
/lbs between 1750 and 4600 RPM, giving you an incrediable 4000 rpm between
when the torque is at it's maximum to when the hosepower is at it's maximum
- one sweet motor in a Vanagon - make that any car! Just for comparison
sake a 2.1 wbx is 117ft/lbs@3200 and 90hp@4800 rpm and the TDI is
149ft/lbs@1900-2600 and 90hp at 4000 rpm.
At 01:38 PM 20/05/2000 -0400, Marc Perdue wrote:
>Okay, stupid question time, for tweakers only:
>
>Is the in-line 4 that you all are talking about the same 1.8L Turbo that
comes
>in current Passats? The same one that develops 150 HP @ 5700 RPM? The
one for
>which you can get a chip that'll take it up to a noisy 195(6?) HP? If it is,
>has anyone put one of these in a Vanagon or Westy with the enhanced
performance
>chip? What kind of torque does this engine develop with the chip? Does
anyone
>here have, or know of, an internet presence where this type of stuff is
>discussed at length so I won't have to bore the whole list with my curiosity?
>
>Thanks in advance for indulging me my questions,
>Marc Perdue
>
>Dan Kinsey wrote:
>
>> I think these are all very valid points. Given my experience owning
several
>> Jetta's/Golf's/Passat's I can say from experience that the l4 engine is
just
>> about bullet proof. From what I am finding out about the cost of a *used*
>> Subaru engine I think, for myself anyway, the l4 is the best way to go.
>>
>> In a message dated 5/20/00 12:55:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
>> vanagon@volkswagen.org writes:
>>
>> << -- No bottom end torque as compaired to a 2.0L I4 or WBX
>> -- Japanese engine in a German van
>> -- The VW dealer will laugh at you if you come in for repairs
>> -- The Subaru dealer will laugh at you if you come in for repairs
>> -- A 2.0L I4 can easily make 130hp with a mild cam and a chip
>> -- The VW engines can be fully serviced by the VW 1551/2 computer
(assuming
>> you get a used North American spec engine).
>> -- VW I4 engines are cheaper than the Subaru engines. >>
>
>
-- David Marshall - Volkswagen Enthusiast - Quesnel, BC, Canada --
-- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Iltis, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westfalia --
-- 85 VW Cabriolet, 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 VW Syncro Double Cab --
-- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org --
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