Date:         Mon, 22 May 2000 00:17:16 -0700
Reply-To:     t <vbob@PRIMENET.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         t <vbob@PRIMENET.COM>
Subject:      Re: 900 Line Wendy Steiner Ad on our list???-----Ugh!!!
Comments: To: "Carrington, Tom" <TCarrington@RELITECH.COM>
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Sorry, that is not what is taking place here. Somebody has joined the
group and taken our e-mail addresses and sold them to Spammers.
The notices that come in do not have "vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" in the
"To" field if they were merely posting. They have swiped our e-mail
addresses. There isn't much we can do about it I am afraid. I am merely
suprised it hasn't happened sooner.

tim o'brien

"Carrington, Tom" wrote:
>
> Yes, we all got it. :(
>
> Pure, unadulterated SPAM.
>
> Considering that this is the second time in 3 days that we have all been
> spammed, maybe we need to make a change to help stop it.
>
> You see, the Vanagon mail list is an "open" mail list. You don't have to be
> subsribed to the list in order to use it. That means *anybody* can send an
> e-mail message to "vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" and it will get distributed to
> all 800+ members.
>
> I can set the server up so that only subscribed listmembers can post
> messages. While that would help stop SPAM messages, it may also make it
> harder for non-members to ask questions. And we do see that from time to
> time - Sort of  those "Hi, I'm not on the list but can you tell me why my
> Van does this funny thing?" messages.
>
> This would be a major change in policy, and i won't enact it without some
> feeedback first. How about those interested *p-mail* me at
> tcarrington@relitech.com and I will report back in a week or so with the
> number of those for/against. I'll also discuss it with Ron (Coyote), the
> list co-administrator.
>
> Your Vanagon list admin,
> TomC
> tcarrington@relitech.com
> http://www.relitech.com/tomc
> http://volksweb.relitech.com
> 85 Vanagon Crew Cab
> 82 Westy diesel=>gas conversion
> 65 Notchback
>
> > Hello from Atlanta---did anyone else get the  "set up your own adult
> > $#@@*&^ business ad" on the list Sunday PM?
> > Is this Spam like a virus, or is it worse?  Help!! List Police!!!!
> >