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Date:         Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:52:18 -0700
Reply-To:     Bill Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bill Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Subject:      Re: [WESTY] Canoe on poptop - too much weight?
Comments: To: Todd Guttman <tguttman@COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
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The problem with kayaks and canoes loaded on foam blocks, in my opinion, is the method of securing the boat... I've never been able to think of any strapping method that wouldn't allow the boat to slide a little... that can cause abrasions to the fiberglass (grit will get between the foam and the top) and it really would make me nervous to have 80 lbs. moving around up there.

When it comes to the possibility of my boat lying in the middle of the road (or through someone's windshield and in their lap for that matter), I would opt to spend some more money and time to install a rack system like those offered by Yakima or Thule. As I understand it, if you get the really really tall Thule 'feet' they can be attached to the rain gutter and will clear the fiberglass top... without fake rain gutter attachments that need to have holes drilled into the side of the pop top. If these really really tall Thule 'feet' are positioned just forward of the pop top and at the extreme rear of the rain gutter, I have been told that the pop top can be raised without removing the rack. My guess is that this will work great for a canoe, but not for a kayak. Kayaks taper down so quickly at both ends that the kayak saddles need to be closer together than the above method allows... so with kayaks it seems there is a need to go with the fake rain gutters and drill the sides of the pop top... . that's what I did for my kayak.

Good Luck, Bill

----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Guttman" <tguttman@COLUMBUS.RR.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:16 AM Subject: [WESTY] Canoe on poptop - too much weight?

> I'd like to ask the Westy members of the group if any of them strap their > canoe(s) directly on the poptop. We've currently got a 17' Mad River > Royalex canoe but the hull has a moderate rocker (curve). Thus, we can't > directly put in on the roof with foam blocks. > > We're contemplating purchasing a new canoe with a straight hull - an Old > towne Discovery Sport 13'. I'd like to toss it up on top using foam blocks > instead of messing with the racks. Is the 80 pound weight too much for the > poptop? > > Thanks for any advice/comments. > > Todd Guttman > Columbus, Ohio > > 85 Westy Rivendell >


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