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Date:         Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:58:19 -0700
Reply-To:     David Raistrick <keen@lenti.type2.com>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Raistrick <keen@lenti.type2.com>
Subject:      Re: List Anti-SPAM measures
Comments: To: Harold Teer <teerhb@hotmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <20000614200546.35288.qmail@hotmail.com>
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Harold Teer wrote:

> I agree with Joe on this one--hate to see you put more work on yourself > unless the problem really gets bad. I manage a small list and have even had > a spammer subscribe, spam the list, and then unsubscribe a few minutes > later. Just block any spammer from subscribing or sending from that email > address.

Well...I run a pair of rather large lists...some of you may know them.;) (i run the system behind the lists, at least.)

If you support unsolicited email marketing, you can go to hell right now, and i have a piece of lead that would be glad to help. (in fact, if you do, please please flame me, so's that i can go ahead and take preventive measures)

Now, for the rest of you...you probably do not enjoy seeing Porn ad's in your email box, ad's for bullsh!t companies, etc cluttering up space. You dont like to download that 400k attached file of a naked guy that is attached to the porn ad, and you most certianly dont like the fact that PEOPLE MAKE MONEY FROM EVERY ONE OF THOSE EMAILS.

Companies..groups of people, really...are PAID to do this. Millions of dollars in revenue. And we wont talk about wasted space, wasted bandwidth, stolen AOL accounts used for this, and other wastes.

Anyway. Every one of these emails that is allowed through is more money for these people. Not only that, if they think this list is spam friendly, perhaps they will subscribe for a week or two and harvest YUR addresses. Then the spam is sent not only to the lst, but to .you. directly as well. And that multiplies expotentialy. You'll be on one spammers mailing list this week..but next week they will sell copies of that list to 10 more agencies. By not standing .against this, you support it.

A little bit of work be damned. Our servers do not allow connections from open relays, dialups, or any spam friendly internet providers. Or known spam companies.

Any spam we do get is scrutinized, traced, and reported. As well as blocked.

Anything that Tom does to prevent spam through the vanagon list is a .good thing.

I'm going to shut up now, as this is totally off topic.

...david

(want to find out why .you. shouldnt be a spammer? http://belps.freewebsites.com/index2.htm )

-- David Raistrick '66 SO-44 Westy keen@type2.com in Guyton Ga


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