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Date:         Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:37:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Zoltan Kuthy <zol@foxinternet.net>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zoltan Kuthy <zol@foxinternet.net>
Subject:      Re: Toilet paper filter is better
Comments: To: Chris Stann <ChrisS@informs.com>
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My TP filter is not a bypass one. It fits directly into the same place as the original filter. It's body is a little wider and longer. To change the cartridge you have to turn it out like the old one, pull the TP out, replace it, turn it back and its done. I can't recall the price. I got it in South Africa while on a visit. I remember paying a bit for the housing and a low price for the cartridges. Never bought filter since. It is a different paper from real TP. If there was a substantial interest here on the list I would get into organizing an import. I don't believe it will happen though. It is not as important here. Zoltan Few '82 Westies

Chris Stann wrote:

> I think the Fram oil filter causes your light to come not because it's > thicker, or better, than a factory filter, but because it does not have the > internal oil pressure relief spring and other design essentials necessary > for the VW motor. > > Can anyone else confirm this or am I just dreaming? > > The TP oil filter may actually be better than our factory filter, so you may > be right when you say that TP would limit oil flow. That's why you would > want to run a synthetic oil of 15-W40 viscosity. Synthetic does not break > down and has a more uniform flow characteristics over a wider temperature > range. Hmmm... It sounds like someone needs to test this theory and post > the results. > > Where do I buy the TP oil filter? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Puzerewski <Puzerewski@email.msn.com> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:57 AM > Subject: Re: Toilet paper filter is better > > > Oil is organic, and over time and exposure to heat, sloses its lubricating > > qualities. I have the problem with my vanagon that if i run a fram oil > > filter, when i drop to idle from say, 70mph, my red oil pressure light > comes > > on. I have to run a stock filter for this not to happen. The thickness > of > > the TP filter would starve my oil pump. > > > > Adam Puzerewski > > 81 westy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Terry Kay" <CTONLINE@webtv.net> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Toilet paper filter is better > > > > > > > Alright, ok , let's say this filter media is better. > > > And let's say, that some Vanagonite, with, let's say, 150,000 miles on > > > their engine, install's one of these miracle filters. > > > I would venture to say that because of the high miles on the engine, the > > > oil pressure is not going to be up to factory spec's, and by trying to > > > push the oil through this TP filter, the oil pump is going to have one > > > hell of a time circulating oil, not only through the engine, but through > > > this do-dad too. Just think of how thick a roll of toilet paper is! > > > And now you want to push oil through it? > > > Now we go to oil samples. > > > I would like to see the results of a oil analysis, where you never have > > > changed your oil. > > > There would have to be so much acid's and sulfur's in the oil, it would > > > make you gag. > > > No filter, removes these! > > > And then, I would like to see the inside of the engine, after let's say, > > > 50 or 60, thousand miles. > > > Yuck! > > > I can see the sludge now! > > > Years ago I knew a guy who believed in never changing his oil in his > > > Caddy, and he traded them off every 4 years. > > > Well, the valve cover's were leaking, and he asked me to change the > > > gasket's > > > There was so much sludge inside those cover's, I had to shovel them out, > > > with a back-hoe! > > > I have changed valve cover gasket's on engines I've owned, and because > > > of frequent oil & filter changes, the inside looks as good as new. > > > Why do the guys that race cars,boats, airplanes, whatever, change their > > > oil every race? > > > Because,oil breaks down, under load! > > > I know this is extreme, but under excessive heat , and fuel wash, > > > situations, oil fails, even the most expensive synthetic's! > > > And no "Miracle filter" is going to alter this fact of life. > > > > > >


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