Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (June 2000, week 3)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:         Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:13:25 -0400
Reply-To:     Joe Fahy <72510.1173@compuserve.com>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joe Fahy <72510.1173@compuserve.com>
Subject:      Repost of Power loss in rain
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I hope that someone has seen this before:

'87 auto Westy 2.1l loses power in rain or dense fog.

I can restore power by turning ignition key off then on when I lose power, this only works for 10 to 15 seconds and then must be repeated. The tach does not go to zero when the power loss is experienced, nor do I lose any dash lights. This procedure is a little dangerous afterdark, not recommended for distance travelling!

As soon as I am off of wet pavement, the van resumes proper operation.

From the symptoms and the Bentley wiring diagrams, I believed that a failure of the left engine compartment ground, where the Digifant relay and the Fuel pump are grounded was the most likely candidate. I still had a tach reading, meaning that the coil was being triggered so I still had spark. So this reinforced the loss of fuel possibility.

I have measured all grounds, except the ground lead from the Bosch ECU( I have not found it yet), and all have been about 30 milliohms to the negative terminal of the battery. I used a 4 wire technique, where both current and voltage are coincidentally measured and the resistance computed. I then sprayed all the grounds with water and the resistances went up about 10 milliohms. I do not think that this is significant. I may be wrong.

I then started the van and proceeded to 'hose her down' while it was running to try and find the offending part- NO JOY! This included ALL electrical sensors/components/connectors in the engine compartment, including both the exposed (cover off)Digifant and fuel pump relays. I also sprayed the O2 sensor and it's connector and the fuel pump and it's connectors. The van continued to run. Note the van was up to operating temp prior to spraying with water.

With the sensitivity of the failure to water on the road, I thought that almost any amount of liquid sprayed on the component/sensor would cause an immediate failure, it has not.

I have 3 keys on my key ring and have played with the keys and the switch while experiencing the power loss. While the ignition switch might be a contributor, I can not make it cause the failure.

I have planned to get the Digitool before this started now it seems imperative.

Can anyone offer some direction?


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.