Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 19:27:41 -0400
Reply-To: The Bus Depot <ron@netcarrier.com>
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From: The Bus Depot <ron@netcarrier.com>
Subject: Re: Luggage rack seal...
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> This seems to have corrected front rack noise, but
> rear pop top will still "Humm" with the right cross wind. I've considered
the
> possibility that the "aluminum" clips don't provide the rigidity that is
necessary to
> stabilize the fiberglass - thus creating a harmonic effect.
The wind noise issue only pertains to the luggage rack seal. The poptop
seal should not have any impact on wind noise. All of the aftermarket seals
use identical aluminum clips and they do not create noise. Are you sure
that the noise you are hearing is not from your luggage rack? If so, then
perhaps you might want a bulbed seal for the luggage rack. The poptop seal
should have no bearing on this.
- Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot, Inc.
http://www.busdepot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of William Maxian
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 11:57 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Luggage rack seal...
>
>
> Ron - With all this feedback about noisy top seals - I'm
> realizing it's not just
> me. Replaced top seals 1+ yrs.' ago, with your seals. I've been
> fighting " The
> Humm" ever since. Noise was soooo bad I thought I'd been hit w/a crashing
> helicopter when it first appeared - not kidding. To date the best
> fix I've found
> was splitting some 1/2" clear plastic tubing & putting 6 - 1"
> pieces along the
> front edge. This seems to have corrected front rack noise, but
> rear pop top will
> still "Humm" with the right cross wind. I've considered the
> possibility that the
> "aluminum" clips don't provide the rigidity that is necessary to
> stabilize the
> fiberglass - thus creating a harmonic effect. The new seals look
> great - but I'm
> regretting having changed them. Max
> 83.5 Westy ( Hummer), 93 EV
>
> The Bus Depot wrote:
>
> > > I was about to order two seals from Go Westy! Has anyone tried
> > > theirs? Or are they just from the same supplier as Bus Boys?
> >
> > Same as Bus Boys' and Motorworks' seal. Different from mine. My
> poptop and
> > luggage rack seals were designed after careful consideration
> and experience.
> > They are not off-the-shelf seals as sold by other vendors, but
> custom made
> > to my specs, and in fact were The Bus Depot's first product.
> >
> > The location of the insulation bulb on my poptop seal is lower,
> and closer
> > to the original, than theirs. This may explain why one member recently
> > reported that his Motorworks poptop seal did not seal well.
> Also, my poptop
> > seal has a smoother finish which is closer to the original than theirs.
> > Finally, Bus Boys and Motorworks (but not Go Westy) ship the
> incorrect seal
> > for between the poptop and luggage rack seals; they merely ship another
> > length of poptop seal, as opposed to the completely different
> weatherstrip
> > that is supposed to be used there. My "flat seal" between the
> two seals is
> > a virtually identical duplicate of the original, not just
> another piece of
> > poptop seal.
> >
> > I have said on this list before, and still feel, that a
> "bulbless" seal for
> > the luggage rack is preferable, and closer to stock. 99
> percent of the time
> > it will NOT create any wind noise, and it WILL promote better rainwater
> > drainage than a bulbed seal.
> >
> > However, for those who would prefer a bulbed seal, I can
> certainly provide
> > that. I will create a new part number on the website,
> LUGSEAL2, which is a
> > luggage rack seal WITH an insulation bulb. If you do a part
> number search
> > for this number, you can order this seal instead of the stock
> one with no
> > bulb.
> >
> > Now there is no reason not to buy your poptop seal from The Bus
> Depot. My
> > poptop seal is superior to the competition's, as noted above.
> And if you
> > feel that you want a bulbed luggage rack seal a la Bus Boys, Go
> Westy, etc.,
> > you can order it that way; it is your choice. Either way you will get a
> > superior seal for not a lot of money.
> >
> > - Ron Salmon
> > The Bus Depot, Inc.
> > http://www.busdepot.com
> > (215) 234-VWVW
>
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