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Date:         Thu, 20 Jul 2000 09:04:45 EDT
Reply-To:     JKrevnov@aol.com
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From:         Rico Sapolich <JKrevnov@aol.com>
Subject:      Re: Call to TOUGH Nut Crackers was- Digifant Idle & brief power
              loss
Comments: To: Doss88Wkndr@aol.com
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In a message dated 7/19/00 6:42:03 PM, Doss88Wkndr@aol.com writes:

<< I have noticed my idle speed wavering between 1k & 2k, but it's just annoying - I really didn't think it was a problem ... but, just yesterday, while driving on the highway about 50mph, I noticed a brief power loss. - not enough to stall me - I just kept driving, and it went away, and ran fine for about 3 hours after that. Today, sort of the same thing. It just lasts for 5 seconds or so, and there seems to be no way of predicting when it might happen. I have a spare ECU, and thought I'd plug it in and see what happens. Will a Digitool save the day, and make it fairly obvious what's happening, or am I going to have to take it to a pro?

Brian Doss >>

Brian,

At this time I have no answers, just an anecdote which may indicate that we have something in common.

I have been fussing around with the idle stabilizer control circuitry since my idle stabilizer controller came up lame (high idle symptom). I replaced it with a used one which cured my ills for about a month before the high idle returned. I have since replaced the output transistor and 56 load resistor in one of the defective controllers. This seems to have reined in the idle ... most of the time. I have not been able to get it to Idle as smoothly as when I run it with the outputs from the Hall sender and O2 sensor disconnected. I am running a Bus Depot O2 sensor with the necessarily spliced lead. It may be coincidental but, rainy weather seems to provoke the high idle.

I realize the foregoing may seem pointless but, history is paramount in troubleshooting and I want you to know where I have been. Anyway, while cruising at highway speed recently, I jammed the throttle to the floor in order to prepare for a long grade. The engine died for a moment as if the ignition had been switched off. The tach dropped to zero immediately. As quickly as it happened, the engine caught fire again and the tach jumped back to 4K. I was able to replicate this action at will by jamming down the throttle. It ran normally when smoothly taking the throttle to the floor. I reasoned that some errant bit of wiring was opening or going to ground when the torque reaction of the engine shifted it on its mounts. When I pulled over to check, I found the wiring in the forward left corner of the engine bay to be rather loosely dressed. None of it was obviously shorted or strained. Still, with the engine running off idle, I grabbed a hank of it and tugged on it every which way I could. I only was able to cause the engine to falter a little, but nothing like what I experienced at speed. I dressed the wiring and went down the road with no more of the problem to date. When I got home, I checked everything possible without finding any detectable defects. I'll let you know when I find something conclusive.

As far as taking it to a pro: if you endure the rigors of troubleshooting this yourself, YOU will be the pro.

Rich


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