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Date:         Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:44:12 -0700
Reply-To:     "Markov, Greg" <GMarkov@TeachMaster.com>
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From:         "Markov, Greg" <GMarkov@TeachMaster.com>
Subject:      Vanagon Search
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Hello,

I am new here. I joined this list in hopes of learning more about the VW Vanagon, and making an "educated purchase," when the time comes. I currently drive (and am loving it) a 1977 Mercedes 240D. So, I am partial to German cars (and to diesels, but more on that later). I have a 1982 Chevrolet 3/4 Ton van that I use for long haul transportation, but I believe things are about to change for the better. =) Here are my requirement: a vehicle that will seat 5 comfortably for LONG drives (we just drove 35 hours straight couple of weeks ago), one that has good AC (I live in Arizona), and one that will tow a small trailer with no problems. Also, one that is reliable, gas-efficient, cost-efficient (another term for cheap), and cool. I am not looking for a Westfalia, although my friends parent have one, and we've camped in it before, and those are COOL!! So, I am writing this e-mail in hopes that you will help me narrow down my search and steer me in the right direction. I have been doing some reading on-line, and I think I know some things, but I've been wrong before ..... once. =) Let's start with the easy part: Cool. No need driving a car that you aren't happy with, with all the choices, right? I like VW, my sister has a 1981 Rabbit that I have been doing a lot of work on. So, there is no problem here. Sitting 5 people comfortably for a long drive shouldn't be a problem either, I've read about the Weekender, and that sounds like the perfect setup for us. Power .... here we start running into problems. I would PREFER a Diesel, but from what I have read VW diesels aren't the strongest. And turbo-charging and the TDI conversion seems to be out of the price range. So, gas it is. No problem. I have read about the Subaru conversion, and that sounds cool, I even got a nice brochure from KEP already. Also, I have read about the TIICO conversion. The goal here is good power, gas mileage and comfortable cruising at 75 MPH. What to do, what to do .... Also, it sounds like the Subaru will provide good efficiency. (Anything is an improvement over the 8 MPG I am currently getting in the Chevy). AC, again, it sounds like the Vanagon isn't that great at cooling, but then again, there are some mods that could be done, from what I read. I have read that the 86+ Vanagon's have superior Climate Control, but if I do the Subaru (or even the TIICO) conversion, does it matter? AC is pretty crucial in Arizona, as it's usually 100+, and even has hit 120 the last couple of weeks. =( Also, there won't be any comfortable cruising if we are all sweating like crazy. Reliability in Vanagons seems to be decent with good maintenance. I do all my own work, and I maintain my cars very well. Hardly ever have a problem, so this should work.

So, so far I have figured that the best way to go would be to find a Vanagon with a bad motor, and to swap in the KEP Subaru Conversion. It seems that I could find a decent shell (85 or earlier) for under $1000. Then you figure in the $3000 for the conversion and other things that need to be fixed. Am I looking in the right direction here? Sorry this is so long, but in the end, this might make a pretty good thread for someone that is just starting the hunt. Please send me ALL of your opinions, advice, experiences, and pointers. I value all of it.

Thanks you in advance, Greg


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