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Date:         Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:01:59 -0400
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@bulley-hewlett.com>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@bulley-hewlett.com>
Subject:      Re: Advice on Evaporator Icing

I'm not sure Ken about one of the things you assert about the older Vanagon AC systems, and I just wanted to verify. Never having done the AC thing on a Vanagon I may be all wet on this.

One most ALL AC units (even old VW 411/412s) there is an ice-prevention switch on the evaporator. It consists of a metal ferule that is closely placed on the air-coming-out side of the evaporator. If it gets below 32, it shuts off the compressor. Once the air warms to about 36-38, it kicks back on. This is the thing that makes the compressor cycle on and off once your car is crispy-cool. It keeps the evap. From icing up.

Even cheap home AC window unit have this feature. Old technology, and cheap.

I can't believe that VW wouldn't put this safety switch in the Vanagon, when in previous years and in the same year the same year, they put it on other vehicles. Wasssup?

G. Matthew Bulley, Principal Consultant Bulley-Hewlett Corporate Communications Mount Olive, NC USA 877.658.1278 Tollfree www.bulley-hewlett.com

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-----Original Message----- From: Randy Bergum [SMTP:organslave@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 2:35 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Advice on Evaporator Icing

Hi Ken: Icing indicates a restriction somewhere. Check out the behavior of temps at each end to get a clue where it is, and get the electrical fixed so the compressor cycles properly - the VW design is pretty good.

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KENWILFY@aol.com wrote:

> I have a guy in Spain who is having a problem with his '91 Westy (US v ersion) > with A/C. He took it to a local shop to have the system charged. They found > that the rad fan wasn't coming on so they hot wired it on low and they also > hot wired the compressor to come on (it wasn't coming on either). So > basically this shop is hack and splice. But they got the A/C to work, > however after an hour or so of running the evaporator starts to ice up and > then the cold air stops. > > I am wondering if the evaporator icing is related to the non-functional > high/low pressure switch, thermostat system for the A/C (since it had to be > hot wired to get it to work) or if it is really an internal system problem > (like moisture in the system or low charge or something). The only reason I > hesistate to think it is an electrical only problem is that the earlier > Vanagons (84-85) had an A/C system that didn't have any high/low pressure > switches or thermostat and they don't seem to ice up. Basically everything > in these earlier systems is just hotwired to come on when you turn the A/C on > and it stays on until you shut the A/C off (you can run it without > refrigerant, it doesn't care). > > Any ideas, experience, or comments would be appreciated. I am basically just > trying to help this guy as he isn't a customer (yet) and I am really working > in the dark, not actually being able to try and troubleshoot the system hands > on. > > Thanks in advance for any help, > Ken Wilford > http://www.vanagain.com > John 3:16 > > New Phone (856)-327-4936 > Shop: (856)-765-1583 > Fax: (856)-327-2242


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