Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:31:48 -1000
Reply-To: Mick Kalber <hotlava@interpac.net>
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From: Mick Kalber <hotlava@interpac.net>
Subject: Re: 89 syncro westy backup 12 volt
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Good thought, Larry... 110 the night before. Hadn't thought of that. the
12v seems kind of useless anyway if it doesn't work when you're not running
and shuts down when you stop and for twenty minutes after you start up
again. What's the point? As you said, just use the propane. You use it
for ten days straight, but how many days will it actually run? Depends on
how much you use the stove of course, but that should be rather negligible
unless your cooking up banquests every day, eh?
Cracked the Bentley today... just scanned it. Diagrams of where the battery
should go... already knew that. So, if the refer is running on propane all
the time, can the lights, radio, etc. be run on the aux battery? Design a
switch-over from the regular battery while camping or what?
I love this list... I've learned more in a week than years of experience
could have taught me. Course I have that to look forward to as well!
Aloha!
Mick Kalber
Tropical Visions Video, Inc.
62 Halaulani Place Hilo, Hawaii 96720
ph. 808-935-5557 fax 808-935-0066
hotlava@interpac.net
www.volcanoscapes.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Johnson [mailto:larry_avery.johnson@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:01 PM
To: hotlava@interpac.net
Subject: Re: 89 syncro westy backup 12 volt
Mick,
I'd check the wattage requirements for the fridge. You could find your
auxiliary
battery drained flat is just a few hours.
I rarely use 12v with ours. On long trips, we just put it on propane and
leave
it, for up to 10 days at a time. Ours cools very quickly on AC so I use that
to
pre cool the fridge the night before we head out. This makes lighting it on
propane the next morning easy.
-Larry
Mick Kalber wrote:
> Larry...
>
> thanks. I just got my bentley's and haven't had a chance to look it up
yet.
> When I do I'll get back in touch. I do want to run the fridge off 12 v
from
> time to time. Lat trip I took to Kona (2 hours) I ran the fridge on 12v
and
> did not notice it cooling at all, but maybe it just hadn't run long enough
> or it wasn't cold enough for me to take notice of. I've been told that
> turning off the bus can delay the start up process up to fifteen minutes
or
> more, and we stopped once. I'll check it again. Kinda silly though...
why
> not just run it on 12 volt from an auxilary battery that doesn't shut down
> when you stop? Or maybe just stick with propane... it's cheap, reliable
and
> doesn't shut down. Would like the dc backup anyway though, in case the
> propane fails. Also would be nice to run lights/radio, etc. off the aux
> when camping, eh? Possible, no?
>
> Mick Kalber
> Tropical Visions Video, Inc.
> 62 Halaulani Place Hilo, Hawaii 96720
> ph. 808-935-5557 fax 808-935-0066
> hotlava@interpac.net
> www.volcanoscapes.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lawrence Johnson [mailto:larry_avery.johnson@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 2:55 AM
> To: Mick Kalber
> Subject: Re: 89 syncro westy backup 12 volt
>
> Mick, the 12v setting on the fridge runs from the alternator output when
the
> engine is running. Under/behind the driver's seat you should find a relay.
> This
> relay does the switching.
> There is no (standard) 12v operation from a battery when camping. Do you
> have a
> Bentley Manual? If you do, I can direct you to where the 12v battery relay
> wiring is described.
> If you still want to install an auxiliary battery, I can send you a
> description
> for that too.
> -Larry
>
> Mick Kalber wrote:
>
> > About two months ago we bought our 89 syncro westy in Seattle and
shipped
> it
> > to our home on the Big Island of Hawaii. When it arrived and we checked
> it
> > out almost everything worked perfectly. One exception... refrigerator
> works
> > great on propane, but not on 12 volt. We subsequently learned there was
> no
> > spare battery in the bus (it's usually located under the driver's seat,
> > correct?) and no connections for a battery, hence, no 12 volt backup
> system.
> > Might be why refer doesn't work on 12 volt, eh?
> >
> > What do we need to get to install supplementary 12 volt, other than ,
> > obviously, a battery. And I think I saw Karl or someone talking
recently
> > about batteries. Wasn't the recommended battery an Optima or something
> like
> > that? What's the procedure for installation? I'm no mechanic, but
would
> > like to tell the shop that's fixing it what opinions I've heard...
they're
> > great vw guys, I've been using them for years, but they don't know the
> westy
> > end of things.
> >
> > Also, wing windows do not sing at any speed, but do leak water when
> sprayed
> > hard (like in a carwash)... any suggestions?
> >
> > Mick Kalber
> > Tropical Visions Video, Inc.
> > 62 Halaulani Place Hilo, Hawaii 96720
> > ph. 808-935-5557 fax 808-935-0066
> > hotlava@interpac.net
> > www.volcanoscapes.com
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