Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:00:03 -0700
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@volkswagen.org>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@volkswagen.org>
Subject: Re: 5 cyl. Audi in Vanagon - was Engine Conversions
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What is so wonderful about the 5 cylinder motors? I have a 1987 Audi 5000S
Quattro. Nice car, reasonable engine. The engine that is in this car is a
non-asp 2.3L 5 cylinder that developes 130hp with 91 octane fuel. This
pushes the car along pretty good and gives 22 to 23 MPG on a good day. You
would never be able to use this engine in a Vanagon without serious
modification to the bellhousing or switching fuel injection systems. All
the Audi Motronic engines have their crank position sender on the flywheel.
The SA bellhousing doesn't have this provision. This means that you can't
use the CIS-Motronic system the engine was designed for. The 2.1L 5
cylinders don't have this problem, but then a 2.0L I4 will have more power
and is easier to install. Another thing that I don't like about the 5
cylinders is that they are a pain to work on - changing the timing belt or
waterpump isn't a simple 15 minute job like it is on the I4. Also the I4s
arn't discontinued like the I5s are... something to think about.
Now, if you could get one of those 2.2L "MC" turbo engine running in the
back of a Vanagon - that would be great!
At 07:04 AM 12/08/2000 -0500, CHRIS STANN wrote:
>Audi 5000's can be bought for a song these days. They use those wonderful 5
>cyl. motors. What engine conversion kit would I have to use to put one of
>those in without having to modify the decklid?
>
>Chris.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@hotmail.com>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Engine Conversions
>
>
>> Everyone keeps comparing the Suburu and Tiico -- but no one ever points
>out
>> that they are no longer using the inline 4 in South Africa for the
>Vanagon.
>> They're only using 5 cylinder engines - a 2.3 and a 2.6 which are rated at
>> 90 and 100 kW @ r/min respectively (which I think translates in 150bhp for
>> 100 kW @ r/min - though I'm not certain.) So if you get a four cylinder of
>> any kind - just remember this: those guys in South Africa will be driving
>> Vanagons with 5 cylinders when they take them off the lot of a dealership
>> and if they drove yours they wouldn't want to trade.
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>
-- David Marshall - Volkswagen Enthusiast - Quesnel, BC, Canada --
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-- 85 VW Cabriolet, 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 VW Syncro Double Cab --
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