Date:         Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:29:32 PDT
Reply-To:     Mark Dorm <mark_hb@hotmail.com>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mark Dorm <mark_hb@hotmail.com>
Subject:      Re: Vanagons in hot climates/tint laws/police
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Yeah, I know, thats why I waited until I registered my out of state vanagon
so I wouldn't have to wait for a refund - what I was refering to is the
ticketing of people for having tint that complies with their home state but
not the state they are traveling to or thru, this is a violation of
interstate commerce and at least one Judge in this country has recognized
this as such - I mean the vanagon is an ideal travel vehicle, so why do they
have to muck it up - If I spend 51 weeks working in one state, and one week
traveling and shopping in another state, I shouldn't have to rip out my tint
to be able to do so.

We have enough to be paranoid about already with headgasket problems and all
the other problems our vanagons might have. And you know the way some police
view VWs. Do you like the idea of them using your tint as an excuse to pull
you over, search your car, and then accuse you of possessing extasy, when
all they've found is a bottle of an over the counter pain pill???

I will say though, I haven't really been bothered by the police since I've
bought my vanagon, a white 91. Was pulled over twice going across county
after I bought it and I didn't have plates yet. I refused to let them search
my car - they had no probable cause. I had the proper papers for driving,
and these were also posted on the rear window. But when I had my ugly yellow
71 transporter with the bashed in front end - that was an entirely different
story. Talk about being profiled.


>From: mike miller <mwmiller@cwnet.com>
>Reply-To: mike miller <mwmiller@cwnet.com>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Vanagons in hot climates
>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:39:16 -0700
>
>Actually California was sued, and lost, and has stopped collecting the fee
>and is now in the process of giving it back, with interest.
>
>The CA legislature was told the fee was illegal, by their own counsel, and
>went ahead and imposed it anyway and fought the battle in court.  Why not?
>They didn't have to pay the legal costs or the interest costs or the
>repayment costs, the people of the state did and nothing was done to those
>legislators who voted for it.
>
>Mike
>former CA DMV employee
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Dorm" <mark_hb@hotmail.com>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Vanagons in hot climates
>
>
> > >Even though it's
> > >legal in one state I heard you could get busted if you just pass
>through
> > >another where it's not legal.
> >
> > And thats a violation of interstate commerce, just like the law
>California
> > had that made you pay 300 dollars extra to get you car registered in
> > California from another state. When will somebody sue? How many more
>people
> > have to get cartaracts, skin cancer, macular degeneration just because a
>few
> > police lobbies in the nation want to see into a vehicle they stop....
> >
> > In Britain the people stopped have to get out of the car, while the
>police
> > get to stay sitting... doubt that will happen here though, Americans
>would
> > probably get run over and then there would be lawsuits
> >
> > >Ask a tint shop when you get there about the
> > >law and brand of tint that's best.(prolly 3-M)
> > >
> >
> > The best will be marketed as a high performance tint... look up
> > www.solargard.com to see some specs listed so you'll have something to
> > compare to.
> >
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