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Date:         Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:22:57 EDT
Reply-To:     RallyXer@AOL.COM
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From:         Heath Vogt <RallyXer@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oh no, not tires again!
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There are still tires with more than two plies and there is a very good reason for it - puncture resitance. AT's and MT's generally have more plies. Rule where my brother lived in Montana was run no less than 6 plie, reason being that they had the nastiest sharpest gravel west of the Mississippi - one week out there I had three flats on my truck, two on his super-do-do, and one on his 4x4 toy. It's all a matter of what you're going to use your van for as to weither it is important or not...

Heath

In a message dated Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:14:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f@HOTMAIL.COM> writes:

<< I believe that if you read the sidewall on your (passenger or light truck) tire you will find that it has at most two plies.

Forty or more years ago they used more plies to increase the strength of tires. When radial-ply tires replaced bias-ply, that changed.

The old methods of rating tires (6-ply, 8-ply, load range C, etc.) are holdovers from previous systems. The load rating number (I believe VW recommends 97 minimum for a Westy) is the best method to see if the tire is as strong as recommended.

As far as I can tell, the "Reinforced Sidewall" tire is just one that is built to light truck specs, somewhat stiffer and stronger than passenger tires, but isn't called a light truck tire.

Look at the sticker inside the drivers side door to see what tire size and numeric load rating is suggested for your van, and tell the salesman what it says.

Higher doesn't hurt. I am driving Kumho 852s, 195R-14 with a load rating of 103. They have two sidewall plies and four tread plies. There might be exceptions, but I haven't seen any lately.

- Mike

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 05:19:39 -0400 From: Puzerewski <Puzerewski@EMAIL.MSN.COM>

I do not believe that this is true. I buy my tires for all my cars through tirerack.com and I have commercial grade 8 ply tires on my vanagon......they also had 6 ply for about $10 a tire less.....

Adam Puzerewski 81 westy 74 beetle 86 cabrio Vanagon Partsmobiles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Dorm" <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [VANAGON] Oh no, not tires again!

>Is that right? They don't make 6-ply and 8-ply tires anymore??? > > > >From: Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f@HOTMAIL.COM> > > >The number of plies in the sidewall doesn't mean anything, as far as I > > >know. > > No one makes 6-ply or 8-ply tires anymore, they make 6-ply and 8-ply >"Rated" tires, but the actual numeric load range rating is the best way to >go. > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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