Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 11:28:29 -0400
Reply-To: Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
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From: Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Subject: Fwd: 2.5 Litre Big Motors From Brian
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>Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:50:56 -0600
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>From: drew@interport.net (Derek Drew)
>To: Multiple recipients of list <vanagon@lenti.med.umn.edu>
>Subject: 2.5 Litre Big Motors From Brian
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>
>AWSOME message Brian!
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I departed from my house @ 9.30 am and arrived just before twelve pm.
> >Easy to find location, the address says Industriestrasse, so when i saw a
> >sign Industriepark, i turned and there it was: BAS.
> >Two Transporters on the parking lot (and my old Opel).
> >
> >I walked into the shop and i immediately noticed several monstrous T-IVs
> >on display, museum-like, later i saw a sign above the counter explicitly
> >stating that they were not for sale. Also: a T-IV head that came from a
> >911 !!! they are not made anymore due to the cost of it,they use four (!)
> >911 heads for one engine they cut 'n weld 'em back together, an extensive
> >operation that leaves you with two *HUGE* T-IV heads with overhead cams!
> >Everyhing very clean and organized. I recognized Mr. Ralph Schmeisser
> >from a picture in an older catalog i have. We shook hands and i wanted to
> >say my name, but he interrupted me and said: "Mr. Verbeek i guess",
> >obviously he saw my Dutch plates on my car. I gave him the printouts
> >of our posts about Ahnendorp and the message of Tom seperately,
> >i asked him to give this to Mr. Ahnendorp, "this is a message from the
> >American he spoke to a few days ago and these are printouts of electronic
> >mails about your company, maybe nice for you...". He promptly took 'em to
> >Mr. Ahhnendorp and came back with a shopping car, "let's take a look at
> >your motor". Got everything inside, and Ralph placed my case, heads and
> >crank on a rolling table. While we were discussing some things about my
> >case Mr. Ahnendorp came and asked (in Dutch!) if i could explain some
> >things, well, you can ask me a lot about VW's, but when it comes to
> >explaining V@L i don't know what to say... :( so i mumbled something like
> >internet, mailinglist, hundreds of recipients all over the world etc.
>
>Funny.
>
> >Maybe it gets clearer when he has read the stuff i gave him, i gave him
> >the weekly stats as well. Then he went on to talk about the conversation
> >he had with Tom. It wasn't a long conversation, he said he gets American
> >inquireries from time to time but that he thinks it's too expensive to
> >ship in small quantities. He also said that he occasionally ships to
>
>No. It is not too expensive to ship in small quantities. The key is to ship
>via ordinary government surface mail (by boat). This way the person here in
>the USA pays low postage and most boxes come stamped "buyer responsible to
>pay duty" or something like that, which the USA buyer can do to the USA
>authorities unless he happens to forget to do this, which is entirely
>possible.
>
>If he means it is too much *trouble* to ship in small quantities, then
>perhaps we really can make up a mass order for 2.5 litre engine parts. I bet
>we'd get as many as 5 or even more list members who want to make their
>Vanagon motors into 2.5 size.
>
> >FAT Performance CA, he gave the example of the Porsche coolingshrouds,
> >FAT orders way before they need 'em, so they don't have to go by airmail,
> >also, you can place three of these on top of each other in one light
> package.
>
>I've always *thought* of FAT as the place to go for the 2.5 engine job. Good
>data to have this confirmed by this post. I have been impressed with FAT's
>stuff over the years.
>
>One of us should call FAT to discuss this whole issue and I expect we'll be
>well illuminated. Perhaps we should send them copies of the relevant pages
>from the catalog first. I will call them eventually, but not for a long time
>as I have other things on my plate right now.
>
> >On the Wasserboxers he said no problem on the real conversion (P&C, Crank
> >Cam, Lifters etc.) but the induction, that's the problem, in this case the
>
>Wow. No problem!
>
> >Bosch Digifant injection system i believe, it has to be "retuned" to
> meet the
> >bigger engines mixture-needs, BAS doesn't do ChipTuning out of the box, they
>
>I think this is not such an issue as it sounds. Firstly, I think it is
>common to go from 2.1 to 2.5 without altering the Digifant factory fuel
>injection. I know the west coast couple with a 2.5 that I talked to had not
>altered the brain/FI setup.
>
>Secondly, I am sure that Dennis Haynes could make up any required/advisable
>mods for this without abandoning Digifant.
>
> >do tune EFI systems but they program every car individually while it's on
> >their dyno. Another option would be dual carbs, but i understand that gives
> >emission test problems, so i think y'all should investigate the Gene Berg
> >supplied EFI, the sets looks like dual carbs and has four throttle bores,
> >it incorporates a BrainBox that you can program yourself with a PC. I saw
> >that Mr. Ahnendorp uses it on his wife's '67 1835 T1. A friend of mine has
> >this system on '68 2.4L T-IV engined bug, he put in three programs,
> >1: economy, 2: Speed, 3: coolest running mixture. You could always preserve
> >such a preset for emission testing... My friend told me he can dial in
> mixture
> >at any given enginespeed.
> >
> >I have the catalogs for you guys, i paid 20.- DM ea.
> >I paid in Dutch Guilders so that makes 20 x 1.14 = 22.80 DG,
> >22.80 : 1.65 = us$ 13.81 ea. I'll put 'em in the mail and let you know
> >what that costs.
> >
> >Anyway, i hope to tell you more after next saturday, the 23rd. to fetch my
> >engine, i'm sorry if this message doesn't supply you all the data you
> >were looking for, i was very impressed with this all, and i also had my own
> >motor in my mind. The catalog will tell *much* more, although it helps
> if you
> >know the German keywords like kurbelwelle (crankshaft), nockenwelle
> (camshaft)
> >etc. Let me know if there's more you want to know, or send me a mail that
> >i can print and forward to Mr. Ahnendorp.
> >
> >The catalog tells me it's possible to convert the WB to aircooled.
> >
> >Hope it helps,
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >
>___________________________________
>Derek Drew
>drew@interport.net (main address for e-mail)
>derekdrew@aol.com (alternate/backup address, checked infrequently)
_______________________________________________
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