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Date:         Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:53:53 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fw: Auxillary battery not charging
Comments: To: Puzerewski <Puzerewski@email.msn.com>
Comments: cc: Bill Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
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Hey Adam -- I wouldn't take down my pants\\\\\panel for just anyone <g> -- but here's what my '84 looks like:

Little ice-cube relay screwed to the wall. Rubber tube containing medium red, small red/black and small blue wires, all hooked to the relay.

All of them go forward in that tube, underneath the floor padding, to right side of accelerator pedal and then up and left to the fuse/relay panel area. The tube ends immediately behind, i.e. forward of, the fuse panel. Red is hooked directly to the main distribution bus on the fuse panel. Red/black and blue go to double terminal T2b immediately behind fuse panel, where they join the corresponding wires going from ign sw term 50 (red/black) and the alternator light (blue). These wires immediately dive into the main harness running to the rear of the van where they go to the start solenoid terminal 50 and the alternator D+ terminal, the latter by way of terminal T1c near the alternator (according to Bentley, I didn't look back there).

So 1) you're missing the red/black wire from ignition terminal 50, which should be your coil ground on the relay (terminal 85 or 86), and 2) the blue wire is indeed busted. I personally think you could get away with using frame ground for the relay coil ground, but you have to have the alternator sense wire to power the relay.

david ps -- now you can help me stuff all that...er...stuff back up into limbo so I can put the fuse panel back <g>.

At 18:18 9/21/2000, Puzerewski wrote: >David, > Yes those were the ones I followed, to a tee. Upon further >investigation here is what I have. > >One 10ga or so red wire from aux battery. > >One red wire in sheath that comes from front of van...always hot. > >One blue wire that is dead whether motor running or not. > >I sus pect that this blue wire is the culprit, but I loaned my Bently and >Haynes to a friend, and cannot view wiring diagrams at present. Where does >the blue wire go from under the drivers seat? It must be broken or pulled >loose along its travel. > >The blue wire should come on when the alternator is charging, correct? When >it sends a current, it flips the relay, and thus charges the battery, >correct?

David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation"


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