Date:         Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:27:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Jason Yasment <jyasment@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jason Yasment <jyasment@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Empty Cat. Converter
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My '84 Westy Californie Spec model has several
differences....full cat, fuel filters both before and
after pump, and a tendency to lean towards the left.


--- Jean-Guy Savoie <jgsavoie@NBNET.NB.CA> wrote:
> My 1984 1.9L Westy (Canadian model, bought in
> Germany by a fly boy at the height of the clod war)
> also has an empty cat.  I had always assumed it had
> been tampered with, but there is no sign of it. The
> way they are made would make that a simple job, just
> remove and hammer away with a chisel or steel rod of
> sorts. I think that the fact it is empty makes it
> noisier, it sort of rings. Bently shows the ceramic
> insert??? Was ist dass?
>
> I suppose the question for the list members would
> be:  Does anyone have a cat with the insert intact?
> Any difference between Canadian, American federal
> and California?
>
> JGS
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gary Stearns
>   To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>   Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:46 AM
>   Subject: Empty Cat. Converter
>
>
>   I noticed in a post today asking about Stebro
> exhausts a mention of a catalytic converter that
> came from the factory "empty".  I bought our '88
> used in '93.  It too had an empty catalyst.  I
> remember thinking that this was strange as I bought
> the Vanagon from a VW dealer (they shouldn't let go
> of it with a tampered emissions system right?), but
> the converter showed no evidence of having been
> forcefully reamed out.  Since then I have seen
> several other posts referring to empty cat. cons.
> Do Vanagons mysteriously tempt tampering or did VW
> actually sell them this way.  Why?  Was an empty
> converter just a place to hang an O2 sensor?  Was it
> empty because our Vanagons are seen by the feds as
> light trucks, not having to meet the same standards
> as passenger cars?
>
>   Gary
>


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