Vanagon EuroVan
Previous messageNext messagePrevious in topicNext in topicPrevious by same authorNext by same authorPrevious page (October 2000, week 3)Back to main VANAGON pageJoin or leave VANAGON (or change settings)ReplyPost a new messageSearchProportional fontNon-proportional font
Date:   Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:14:05 -0700
Reply-To:   pensioner <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
Sender:   Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:   pensioner <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET>
Subject:   Re: Coil Fires, 7.5KOhms
Content-type:   text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

The coil works as a dynamic resistance or impedance if you like. The secondary DC resistance of 7.5K has virtually no effect on the primary current draw under steady state (DC) operation.

The basics are: Run current through the primary until the core is "saturated" then abruptly stop the current flow in the primary. The field induced by the saturated core collapses and causes a high voltage spike to occur on the secondary lead to the distributor. This spike >20KV is timed to correspond to the juxtaposition of the rotor and one (or more) of the distributor contacts causing a >20KV "spark" or arc at the spark plug gap. Mr. Lenz said it well with the voltage across a "coil" being proportional to the change in current. With an "infinite" change in current over time one would expect a large voltage change across the output terminals.

From Kettering..."the only parts with an infinite service life are those which are never installed" Kettering invented this type of ignition system and it bears his name.

So a primary fire cound be a DC issue with a short to ground causing the points when closed to fuse and direct battery current through the primary of the coil. Measure the DC primary resistance. Divide 12VDC by this resistance and you will calculate the current through the primary. It has been my experience that you can short the primary to ground with 12VDC applied without inflammatory results. But hey, I'm just a dwEEb.

A better answer might be a primary feed wire grounding without going through the primary coil. This would seriously smoke the insulation on said wire and maybe with enough inflammable grunge on the wiring cause a "fire".

Donning my nomex and awaiting the flames ....

pensioner


Back to: Top of message | Previous page | Main VANAGON page

Please note - During the past 17 years of operation, several gigabytes of Vanagon mail messages have been archived. Searching the entire collection will take up to five minutes to complete. Please be patient!


Return to the archives @ gerry.vanagon.com


The vanagon mailing list archives are copyright (c) 1994-2011, and may not be reproduced without the express written permission of the list administrators. Posting messages to this mailing list grants a license to the mailing list administrators to reproduce the message in a compilation, either printed or electronic. All compilations will be not-for-profit, with any excess proceeds going to the Vanagon mailing list.

Any profits from list compilations go exclusively towards the management and operation of the Vanagon mailing list and vanagon mailing list web site.