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Date:         Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:27:54 -0400
Reply-To:     "Joe L." <mejoe100@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         "Joe L." <mejoe100@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Help! Piston sleeves stuck
Comments: To: Don & Christina Preston <betsy@UTAH-INTER.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <053801c03c41$8e4066e0$a0807ad8@lightrealm.com>
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Having faced the same trouble last year what finally did it for me was a technique similar to the one Daryl describes below. Only difference being instead of chisels wedged in those bosses I used a large Craftsman screwdriver. Make sure it is a Craftsman because if you destroy the screwdriver (like I did) that lifetime guarantee gets you a new one on your next trip to Sears. What finally broke things free was the application of heat from a butane torch. Try to heat just the head near the cylinders. You want to get the head hotter than the cylinder so the head will expand away from the cylinder. There is no need to get it very hot at all. Just enough to break the "weld" that has formed over the years. Beat on that wedged chisel/screwdriver while the head is hot and things will come apart with relative ease. Just make VERY sure all combustables have been cleaned from around the area before applying the torch. If your level of paranoia is a high as mine have the wife/kid/neighbor standing by with a fire extinguisher. Your cylinders may not be stuck half hard as mine were so the torch may not be needed but if your find your cussing getting loud enough to disturb the neighbors keep it in mind. In a way I kind of envy you. Few feelings I have had in my life were as pleasant and satisfying as the feeling I got when I at last saw daylight between the head and that &%!@%#^ cylinder!

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of Don & Christina Preston Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 12:03 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Help! Piston sleeves stuck

Alright.Thanks for the advise guys. I'll dig into it again this morning.

I was wondering though, could I use some sort of wd-40 type stuff to help break them free? Or would that cause a whole mess o problems inside the block?

Thanks,

Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Christensen" <aatransaxle@JUNO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Help! Piston sleeves stuck

> When I was a real mechanic in my previous life...I ALWAYS got the stuck > piston liners loose with 2 cold chisels that were fairly large and the > pointy end ground down....there are bosses around the outside of the > cyl's that will serve as leverage points to put the chisels on and tap > them one at a time till the cylinder breaks free....(you are using the > chisel to force the head from the cyl). Even if they come loose a > bit..the base "o"rings seem to reseal ok afterwards..be patient and > fairly persuasive with the hammer..you can't hurt the bosses on the > cyl's...look in there and you will see what I mean...Good Luck > Daryl of AA Transaxle > Duvall, WA.(Seattle area) > (425) 788-4070 > 1-877-377-0773 toll free > http://www.aatransaxle.com (web site) > On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:09:53 -0700 Don & Christina Preston > <betsy@UTAH-INTER.NET> writes: > > Hi all, > > > > Today I began working on replacing the head gasket on the right side > > of my engine. Only problem is, the piston sleeves are stuck to the > > head. I don't want to pull the head off with the sleeves attached, > > per Boston Bob's directions.... > > > > So, what to do? I can see them through the gap between the block and > > head and they look kinda rusty. Am I outta luck? Can I use some kind > > of chem to break it free? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Don Preston > > '87 Wolfy GL > > -Betsy the Mp3 Bus- >


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