Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:19:22 -0700
Reply-To: Steve Schwenk <Steve@SYNCRO.ORG>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Steve Schwenk <Steve@SYNCRO.ORG>
Subject: Re: Old Man Emu Syncro Shocks
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David, I did not bad mouth your springs. Your customers
did. I have sold several sets to people who bought
yours first and were not satisified with them. And I
have never ever told anyone not to buy anything from
you. In fact, you are the ONLY business that has a
link on syncro.org. The only one.
I never would have said a word about your springs, but
when we were developing ours and when we were puting
together the Bilstein project, you kept trying to
convince people to buy your lift kit instead. It almost
killed the Bilstein project, which was 100%
non-profit. And your product was not even the same as
what we were doing. When you thrust your product as an
alternative to ours, a compairson was in order so
people could decide based on the facts and people's
experience.
I don't see Busdepot or vanagain or volks cafe rushing
in to tell people they sell OME shocks or lift springs
every time I mention what I am doing. Moreover, there
nevcer would have been Old Man Emu syncro shocks in
this country but for our success in persuading ARB to
begin importing them almost 2 years ago.
I am doing this because I enjoy it and I enjoy the
community we have built up. It is a passion and a
hobby for me, not a business. I have nothing against
you or your business. However, if you want to thrust
yourself in as an alternative to my projects, expect me
to respond and compete toe-to-toe.
steve
David Marshall wrote:
>
> Mr Schwenk,
> What the hell do you have against me and my business Steve? It seems that
> everything thing that I sell or produce you have to criticize and put it
> down. Every chance you get you bad mouth my Syncro springs even thought
> they are the same specs as the springs that you sell. You have told many
> people that all I sell is garbage and not to buy anything from me.
> Personally I am getting a little tired of your childish attitude. If you
> have a problem with me or a problem with a product or service that I sold
> you in the past - please tell ME about it and I will solve the problem for
> you - plain and simple - no questions asked. It's a pretty simple concept
> Steve.
>
> I generally let comments about vendors (good and bad) fall off into the
> Ethernet, as I know we all have our moments. I don't like getting involved
> in conflicts in a public forum, as it is always a no win situation for all
> parties involved. It seems that the OPINION of one person on the list
> outweighs the EXPERIENCES of ten people on this list. I'm not interested in
> getting into a pricing war or into an email flame fest - this is not how I
> do business nor is it how I expect anyone else to conduct business. To me
> business is not solely based on price it is based on service. Personally I
> am always willing to pay more for a product when there is good service
> behind it. I am very sure that most people think that way too. Like I have
> said before Steve, if you have a problem with me, my products or my services
> tell me about it and I will help you. If do not have any problems with me
> then what IS your problem? I would be more than happy to discuss it over
> private email or on the telephone where a conversation like this really
> belongs.
>
> David Marshall
>
> Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning
> 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
> Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
> mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca
> Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160
>
> . Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions
> . Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales
> . European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of Steve Schwenk
> Sent: October 28, 2000 10:22 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Old Man Emu Syncro Shocks
>
> I will beat Fastforward's price! Guaranteed!
>
> David Marshall wrote:
> >
> > Steve and the list...
> >
> > I've been selling the Old Man Emu shocks at Fast Forward for quite a while
> > now at much less that their suggested retail pricing. I don't mind taking
> > single orders and yes I can ship anywhere as well.
> >
> > Perhaps I shouldn't let the cat out of the bag yet, but is anyone
> interested
> > in *user adjustable* gas shocks for the front and rear of their 2WD or
> > Syncro Vanagon?
> >
> > David Marshall
> >
> > Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning
> > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
> > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
> > mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca
> > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160
> >
> > . Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions
> > . Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales
> > . European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> > Of Steve Schwenk
> > Sent: October 28, 2000 9:54 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Old Man Emu Syncro Shocks
> >
> > I get so many inquiries through syncro.org on where to
> > buy Old Man Emu shocks that I have decided I might as
> > well sell them. It will be just as easy for me to
> > place an order as it is to tell people where to buy
> > them. ARB will drop ship them anywhere. All I need
> > to do is make a phone call. Credit cards will be
> > accepted (via paypal...i now have a business account so
> > the purchaser can bypass most of their normal sign up
> > hassels).
> >
> > I was able to qualify as a distributor since they know
> > me from my efforts to get them to import the OME syncro
> > shocks to North America, and via Syncro.org, and due to
> > the spring sales. Markup will be nominal since this
> > isn't really a business for me and I do not expect to
> > sell many. My main motivation in doing this is that by
> > generating "income" from my "Hobby," I will legally be
> > allowed to take certain tax advantages.
> >
> > I need a minimum of five sets to get a decent price.
> > If anyone is interested, let me know.
> > steve
> > http://www.syncro.org/
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