Date:         Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:29:27 -0500
Reply-To:     "1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\"" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From:         "1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\"" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Cold Start problem
Comments: To: Matthew Pollard <poll7356@UIDAHO.EDU>
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Matthew, wouldn't there still be enough fuel in the engine and the fuel
lines to start her up without the pump engaging?

Thanks,
Chris Gronski
Toronto, Ontario,
'80 Westy "Pokey" - SLOPOKEY
'87 Chevrolet Sprint - Ice Racer
'91 Pontiac Firefly - Convertible
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Pollard" <poll7356@UIDAHO.EDU>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Cold Start problem


> Larry, I have a similar problem in the cold.  My knees ache, my hands
> ache... oh my bus. Yeah, it takes some time for the fuel pump relay to
> click on.  If i'm in cold weather I will turn on the ingition and leave it
> on for about 8 or 10 minutes. That is usually enough time for the relay to
> click on, fire up the fuel pump (you can hear it hummmm) and allow my
> beasty to turn over. I replaced one of the relays but got no change-
> maybe i should swap out both? In my rig (84) the relays are in a black box
> just over the coil on the left side of the engine compartment.  Hmmm,
> maybe it is not the relays that are the problem? But i do know that when
> they fire, the fuel pump humms and i can turn her over and drive away,
> CHeers and good luck
> Matthew
>
>
> Matthew Pollard             http://www.uidaho.edu/~poll7356
> Dept. of Chemistry               http://www.chem.uidaho.edu
> University of Idaho                   http://www.uidaho.edu
>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Larry wrote:
>
> > Today's puzzler:
> >
> > Below about 20 degrees F, my  '88 refuses to start. The starter does not
> > engage, either no sound or just a click when the key is turned. Above
20,
> > all is well. The battery indicates full charge. The neutral switch is
> > affected by the ambient temperature?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Larry Hensley
> > 88GL automatic
> >
>