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Date:         Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:04:04 EST
Reply-To:     JordanVw@AOL.COM
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From:         JordanVw@AOL.COM
Subject:      Re: vw 411 and 412 quest.?....some (f)
Comments: To: Oxroad@aol.com
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In a message dated 12/14/00 2:41:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, Oxroad@AOL.COM writes:

> What's the deal on the VW 411 and 412 if I have the models right? These > replaced the squareback and fastback as far as I can remember, but have many > survived? Are they or were they decent cars in their day--and are they > usable > now if one can be found? Are they pricey if one can be found? Are they worth > it? > >

i had a rust free '73 412 squareback w/ 80k orig miles, Eberspaecher BN-4 gas heater, roof rack, at, 1800cc FI engine, even had an 8 track Blaupunkt in it..and i was lucky to get $500 for it.. they are like vw's "edsel"... vw's first attempt at a "luxury car" (hah! :<) and were the most expensive in vw's lineup at the time, exept for a fully decked out westy, maybe.

neat little car, but they didn't sell too well. people figured they could go out and buy a nice '73 ford LTD detroit monster that had heat and power windows for the same money.. thats why the 411/412 were only sold from '71-'74. if you find a manual one, grab it if its in good cond. the manual trannys are rare. i always wanted to find a manual one and drop a 2 liter in there. they came stock with the 1700cc FI ('71-'72 411) and the 1800cc FI - '73-'74 412). Most type 4's (411/412 are called "type 4") were automatics. gas heaters were standard on all of them, and even have a preset timer feature where they are connected to the clock in the car and you can set it to come on at a certain time. that way, you can set your gas heater to come on at 6:30am, and by 7:30 when you leave for work, the car will already be burned to the ground .... :<)

chris


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