Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:05:49 -0500
Reply-To: Frank Miller <fmiller01@SPRYNET.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Frank Miller <fmiller01@SPRYNET.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon.com site
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This is just another example of a growing trend. This is from a newsletter that I subscribe to:
~Hurts So Good~
Hackers will con your employees, break into your network, steal
your secrets and then send you a bill. Welcome to "vulnerability
assessment."
Click here for full story:
http://tm0.com/xdrive/sbct.cgi?s=79378172&i=284625&d=731784
Frank Miller
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From: "AeroBiker1" <aerobiker1@NETZERO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent on: 12/13/2000 07:59:00 AM
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?2=A2:__Vanagon.com_site?=
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>Jim,
>
>If you parked your Vanagon in a bad part of town, unlocked, and someone
>broke in, stole all the change from your glovebox and changed the presets on
>your radio, of course you'd be mad, so would I. However, they did no actual
>damage to anything, took nothing of real value.
>We both would be a little wiser, stash the cash and lock the doors before
>wandering away from our beloved beasts. In retrospect, if the glass was
>smashed, the dash trashed, and the vehicle was recovered in a chop shop, now
>*that's* gonna put a few tears in my beers.
>At least we can swap mail, eh!
>
>I vote for: We're lucky this time, and batten the hatches!!!
>
>
> R ô¿õ
> o
>Antaki
>
> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
> - Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>>
>> And now I have to enter the discussion.
>>
>> If someone breaks into my Vanagon, breaks the steering lock, hot wires
>> it (or picks the ignition lock) and drives it even a foot, they have
>> 'stolen' my van. Intent doesn't enter into the discussion. I do not
>> care if their 'intent' was to show me that it could be done. If they
>> leave a 'calling card' they are just plain stupid.
>>
>> In this case, even if it only takes thirty seconds to fix the damage,
>> it is still a trespass and a theft of someone's time. I'm sure that
>> the federal law enforcement officials would feel the same way. They
>> tend to take cracking *very* seriously.
>>
>> Prosecute the bastard!!!
>>
>> Jim Arnott
>> List Admin
>> WetWesties
>>
>
>
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