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Date:         Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:51:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Pat Collins <collins.90@OSU.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Pat Collins <collins.90@OSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon.com is hacked..
Comments: To: Bill Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <012001c06527$b71dfe60$4930a2d1@wd1000086onem>; from
              wdavidson@THEGRID.NET on Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:11:18AM -0800
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Folks,


Hackers are the good guys.  This guy is not a hacker, he is a cracker.
Hackers hack code, they don't "test" peoples security.


We don't like people talking about our vw's by calling them  "minivans"
, hackers  don't like people talking about hacking when they
really mean cracking.


Pat
Hacker and vanagon owner.




On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 09:11:18AM -0800, Bill Davidson wrote:
>   Hackers are vandals and thieves-if he wanted to "help" us show the weaknesses
>   of our site, he should have contacted the List admin.
>
>   Yep. For a 'hacker' to say they are the good guys is like a guy soaping your windows just to show you that it can be done.... nice guy! Takes you time and effort to undo him supposedly helpful work...
>
>   I say prosecute 'em!
>
>   Bill
>
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