Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:38:35 -0800
Reply-To: mike miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: mike miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject: Re: Follow up on hacking incident
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If he were a true 'good guy' he would have told what could be done, then given the fix first. As a sales technique it not only sounds like 'protection' as in 'protection racket', it is.
JMO
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: KENWILFY@AOL.COM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:09 AM
Subject: Follow up on hacking incident
Well, perhaps I over reacted a little yesterday about the obvious hack of our
group website. I am not used to this new wave of "pro-active" internet
security (ie hack into a site to show people how easy it is before someone
malicous does it). Anyway the guy who did it does seem to be a decent
fellow. Here is a copy of the correspondence we had from the time I
initially found the problem to today. I guess I still have alot to learn
about the net. Please read all the way to the end to get the full story.
Subj: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!
Date: 12/12/2000 5:14:53 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: KENWILFY
To: hiking@triple2u.com
Dear hacker person, I don't understand why you want to try to hack into a
non-commerical website that is for enthusiasts. We aren't selling anything
and people who use this site are going to be more angry at you than
impressed. I mean it is not like the site is fort knox or anything, it is
just a hobby site with minimal protection. If you think you are hot stuff
for hacking a wimpy page then you have another think coming. I hope you
enjoy your moment of glory because when 800 plus members of the group start
hate mailing you on a daily basis for months at a time, you are going to wish
you were never born. Oh, did I forget to mention that many of them are also
hackers as well. Hope you sleep well at night.
Ken Wilford
Subj: RE: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!
Date: 12/13/2000 3:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: hiking@triple2u.com
To: KENWILFY@aol.com
dear ken
i will sleep well thank you
but i will fix your site tomorrow, sorry for what i did
and i will be glad if your friend (hacker), teach me how to hack
because i am not hacker iam only testing security
best regards
hiking
Subj: Re: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!
Date: 12/13/2000 8:25:48 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: KENWILFY
To: hiking@triple2u.com
Listen sorry about the hateful post. I was angry that the site was down when
I wanted to view something on it. I guess you were trying to do us a favor
by showing us the site is vulnerable. My suggestion is that you explain this
in more detail the next time you do something like this. It could avoid
mis-understandings.
Thanks,
Ken Wilford
Subj: RE: Re: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!
Date: 12/13/2000 9:13:11 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: hiking@triple2u.com
To: KENWILFY@aol.com
ken
thank you for understand
ya i just want showing the site is vulnerable
oh ya pls tell to the admin to patch the hole
get the patch from microsoft
tell to admin
to get MS00-078 patch
best regards
hiking
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