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Date:         Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:34:11 -0500
Reply-To:     "1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\"" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\"" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject:      Re: UPS shipping
Comments: To: Daniel Danrich <danrich@CCMAUI.NET>
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Dan, for the record I jumped into this because the thread turned to UPS, who I hate. I have nothing to say about this Bus Depot mirror packaging thing because I wasn't there and I don't know the details. This rant was from my personal experience with UPS.

If a VW vendor told me that I had to pay an additional 10% to 50% of the value of my item (over and above additional shipping cost) because he was sending the part to Canada I would flame them with equal fervour.

UPS levies this charge AFTER the package has been sent. The original sender has no idea it is being charged and if you want your package you have to pay it, it is EXTORTION.

ISN"T IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO WARN CANADIANS ON THIS LIST THAT THE METHOD OF SHIPMENT THEY CHOOSE COULD COST THEM AND ADDITIONAL 10% TO %)% OF THE COST OF THIER ITEM?

If there were two vendors on this list and one had prices that were 10% to 50% higher (all else equal) wouldn't everyone on the list be saying to buy from the cheaper vendor? Isn't this ALREADY happening when we buy from list vendors instead of VW dealers?

This list is a forum for members to help each other... by saving my fellow Canadian listees money that is what I am doing.

Thanks, Chris Gronski Toronto, Ontario, '80 Westy "Pokey" - SLOPOKEY '87 Chevrolet Sprint - Ice Racer '91 Pontiac Firefly - Convertible www.vanagon.org & .ca www.gronski.com, .org, & .ca www.nineeleven.org & .ca

----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Danrich" <danrich@CCMAUI.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re: UPS shipping

> I don't understand, why is it OK to slander UPS or USPS or FedEx but when we > complain about a VW vender everybody gets defensive ? This thread went from > poor packaging to this long thread about shipping companies with no problem > in flaming them? Is it OK because there so big and our beloved VW vendor are > so small? > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf > Of Lawrence Johnson > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:38 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: UPS shipping > > > gary2a@TELUSPLANET.NET wrote: > > > There is one thing all Canadians should watch with UPS when getting stuff > > from the states and that is the famous UPS brokerage fees. A $500 US > order > > costs about another $45 US in brokerage fees, plus gst on the value. > > In my case UPS also collected the 8% PST for the Ontario Government. They > are > under no legal compulsion to do so - just coercion. > > > The post office charges a flat $5 CDN for all shipments. > > And the post office does NOT collect the 8% PST. > > If I can keep just one Listmember from being ripped off by UPS, I won't feel > so > bad about what they are doing to me. -Larry >


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