Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:43:45 -0800
Reply-To: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: UPS shipping - no vanagon content
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<P>So both Fed Ex and UPS charge canadians extra when they receive something from the US, but not USPS??? Is that the story in this thread? But the reverse isn't true??? <BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\"" <POKEY@VANAGON.ORG>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: "1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\"" <POKEY@VANAGON.ORG>
<DIV></DIV>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: UPS shipping
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:34:11 -0500
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Dan, for the record I jumped into this because the thread turned to UPS, who
<DIV></DIV>>I hate. I have nothing to say about this Bus Depot mirror packaging thing
<DIV></DIV>>because I wasn't there and I don't know the details. This rant was from my
<DIV></DIV>>personal experience with UPS.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>If a VW vendor told me that I had to pay an additional 10% to 50% of the
<DIV></DIV>>value of my item (over and above additional shipping cost) because he was
<DIV></DIV>>sending the part to Canada I would flame them with equal fervour.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>UPS levies this charge AFTER the package has been sent. The original sender
<DIV></DIV>>has no idea it is being charged and if you want your package you have to pay
<DIV></DIV>>it, it is EXTORTION.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>ISN"T IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO WARN CANADIANS ON THIS LIST THAT THE METHOD
<DIV></DIV>>OF SHIPMENT THEY CHOOSE COULD COST THEM AND ADDITIONAL 10% TO %)% OF THE
<DIV></DIV>>COST OF THIER ITEM?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>If there were two vendors on this list and one had prices that were 10% to
<DIV></DIV>>50% higher (all else equal) wouldn't everyone on the list be saying to buy
<DIV></DIV>>from the cheaper vendor? Isn't this ALREADY happening when we buy from list
<DIV></DIV>>vendors instead of VW dealers?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>This list is a forum for members to help each other... by saving my fellow
<DIV></DIV>>Canadian listees money that is what I am doing.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>>Chris Gronski
<DIV></DIV>>Toronto, Ontario,
<DIV></DIV>>'80 Westy "Pokey" - SLOPOKEY
<DIV></DIV>>'87 Chevrolet Sprint - Ice Racer
<DIV></DIV>>'91 Pontiac Firefly - Convertible
<DIV></DIV>>www.vanagon.org & .ca
<DIV></DIV>>www.gronski.com, .org, & .ca
<DIV></DIV>>www.nineeleven.org & .ca
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Daniel Danrich" <DANRICH@CCMAUI.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <VANAGON@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:01 AM
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: UPS shipping
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > I don't understand, why is it OK to slander UPS or USPS or FedEx but when
<DIV></DIV>>we
<DIV></DIV>> > complain about a VW vender everybody gets defensive ? This thread went
<DIV></DIV>>from
<DIV></DIV>> > poor packaging to this long thread about shipping companies with no
<DIV></DIV>>problem
<DIV></DIV>> > in flaming them? Is it OK because there so big and our beloved VW vendor
<DIV></DIV>>are
<DIV></DIV>> > so small?
<DIV></DIV>> > Dan
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
<DIV></DIV>> > Of Lawrence Johnson
<DIV></DIV>> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 5:38 AM
<DIV></DIV>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: Re: UPS shipping
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > gary2a@TELUSPLANET.NET wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > > There is one thing all Canadians should watch with UPS when getting
<DIV></DIV>>stuff
<DIV></DIV>> > > from the states and that is the famous UPS brokerage fees. A $500 US
<DIV></DIV>> > order
<DIV></DIV>> > > costs about another $45 US in brokerage fees, plus gst on the value.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > In my case UPS also collected the 8% PST for the Ontario Government. They
<DIV></DIV>> > are
<DIV></DIV>> > under no legal compulsion to do so - just coercion.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > > The post office charges a flat $5 CDN for all shipments.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > And the post office does NOT collect the 8% PST.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > If I can keep just one Listmember from being ripped off by UPS, I won't
<DIV></DIV>>feel
<DIV></DIV>> > so
<DIV></DIV>> > bad about what they are doing to me. -Larry
<DIV></DIV>> >
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