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Date:         Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:59:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
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From:         Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Subject:      Warehouse Mixes Up Engine Seal Numbers
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I don't know what to make of this, but here is the story.

The engine seal near the clutch is sometimes replaced (needlessly) by smart and diligent owners when doing a clutch job.

The seal itself costs about $19 at the dealer, and probably much less through other channels.

The seal part number used to be 029 105 245B but in current EKTA and ETOS, 2WD and 4WD, is now listed as 029 105 245 without the letter suffix.

I ordered 029 105 245 from Camelback two years ago and received two of these in a warehouse baggie with that part number on the tag.

When I went to put the seal in the engine, however, I decided to compare the part to the similar Elring seal that came in the engine seal kit I bought from Bus Depot about the same time. This act of comparison in response to idle curiosity is something you would do only if you were spending so much time doing your clutch, that in fact it would have been better to hire somebody else to do the job. In any case, the diameter of the seals were the same, but I noticed that the Camelback seal supplied was 12mm thick whereas the original seal in my motor and the seal in the Elring kit were both only 10mm thick.

Hummm....

I looked more closely at the Camelback supplied seals and noticed that they actually carried a slightly different part number imprinted on them-- 025 105 245 instead of 029 105 245. So there was a discrepancy between what the tag said and what was printed on the seal. The Camelback supplied seals had the words "Made in Brazil" stamped on them, the letters "4C," the letters "DDX 02191-BR" and the word SABO stamped on it. This seemed like something of a mystery seal. I entered the part number in EKTA and drew a blank. Since it was 12mm thick compared to the factory original, I did not know whether this was an improvement or actually the wrong part. Accordingly, I decided to install the Elring seal and return the mystery seals to Camelback for two with the correct part number on it.

That's all I know. For all I know, 029 105 245 is an improved but not yet documented seal.

I hope this information in the next 10 years will be useful to somebody searching the archives and pondering these important matters.

________________________________________________________ Derek Drew New York, NY & Washington, DC derekdrew@rcn.com Email me for Viscous Couplings '90 Syncro Westfalia... ...seen off-road at http://www.tiu.net/~des/vw/drew/index.html

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