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Date:         Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:31:12 EST
Reply-To:     kenneth d lewis <kdlewis@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         kenneth d lewis <kdlewis@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: O2 Sensor Voltage
Comments: To: ingalls_mark@HOTMAIL.COM

Mark; It should oscillate up and down, eventually very quickly as the engine heats up runs faster. Below is some text on the sensor. On my web site there is a picture of a gadget I made to monitor the O2 output. Check it out.

Drive Safely & Good Luck Ken Lewis <Kernersville,NC 86 VW crewcab;60 356B Coupe Go to neksiwel.20m.com for pictures of my cars and some Vanagon tech stuff.

Diagnosing Oxygen Sensors:

The oxygen sensor is really a simple device : It tells the engine computer how much O2 (oxygen) is left in the exhaust . With this information the computer can determine the best air/fuel ratio ; stoichiometry.

When the O2 sensor detects too little oxygen in the exhaust it tells the computer the engine is running rich (please send less fuel).On the other hand too much O2 means a lean mixture (please send more fuel).

The O2 sensor kind of acts like a fuel cell(a battery is a good analogy). A voltage is produced (1 to 1.5 volts) when there is a difference of oxygen levels between the inside of the sensor(the environment air) and the outside of the sensor sitting in the exhaust stream . This indicates a rich condition or to little O2.When there is O2 in the exhaust (lean), the inside and outside of the sensor has less O2 differences and the voltage output drops to zero.

BUT the sensor must reach operating temperature to work(real hot) i.e. the computer ignores any input from sensors on a cold engine. This is known as "open loop operation",the computer wings it.After the sensor heats up the computer goes into "closed loop operation".The sensor detects a lean mixture then the computer allows more fuel from the injectors. This produces a rich mixture,sensor voltage drops,computer leans out the mixture.An endless cycle. In other words the mixture never stabilizes at perfect but continuously toggles around it.

If you have a good voltmeter you should see this voltage swing from a fully heated operational sensor.

You can test your system with a 1.5 volt flashlight battery. Disconnect the sensor lead. This is easiest deduce with a single wire sensor. Three wire sensors have two wires for a heater, DON'T mess with these.Connect the negative side of the battery to chassis ground. touch the sensor wire going to the computer to the positive side of the battery.This fools the computer in thinking there is a rich mixture present. It attempts to correct by leaning out the mixture ,hopefully making the RPM's drop.The output of the sensor should drop also.

On the other hand if you ground the sensor lead going to the computer it thinks the there is a lean mixture and attempts to compensate by send more fuel hence the engine SHOULD surge. At this time the output of the sensor should climb.

On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:12:44 -0600 Mark Ingalls <ingalls_mark@HOTMAIL.COM> writes: >Hello Volks, > >With my Digitool on my 85 Digijet, my O2 reading at idle goes from >.75ish to >.1ish or less then back up to say .8ish. > >This goes on many times a second. > >Is this the normal cycling, or should it be smoother and stay around >say .4 >to .6? > >Mark Ingalls >0 degreesF in Nebraska and testing my just constructed digitool. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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