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Date:         Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:15:48 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: AC Freon
Comments: To: Tarheel <puzerewski@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Actually, that is not true. All the auto recyclers are required to recover the freon. the real intent is that the R-12 is not "Intentionally" released to the atmosphere. Most house AC's and refrigerator contain ounces of refrigerant and most of that was R-22. Cars hold pounds of R-12 which is the most damaging. As for the government regs, an independent person may get away with a lot, but any reputable scrap yard won't take the chance. The fines can start at $10,000.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Tarheel Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 5:48 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: AC Freon

Hogwash!!!!!

What do you think happens to the freon in all the old a/c units in cars, old refrigerators, etc.? It goes right thru the shredder at the scrap yard/steel mill and into the blast furnace (the freon released to the air). Do not be fooled by these overly stringent government regs.

If it is swapped to R-134, he can buy the stuff at Wal-Mart.

If it has not been swapped, he can buy the kit and wtill do it himself. Maybe pay someone to put a vacuum pump on it. I have done this on at least 5 vehicles in the driveway and have never had a problem.

Sometimes a new o-ring is needed if there was no coolant in the system prior to my adding freon. That is about all.

Adam Puzerewski 81 westy 74 beetle 86 cabrio Vanagon Partsmobiles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Mages" <wasserbox@YAHOO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [VANAGON] AC Freon

> hehehe - surely you aren't serious. > > If you can even get freon (very illegal unless you are > a certified mechanic) you need a recovery tank, and a > bunch of other $$$ equipment to do it correctly. > > Since 1991, you only option is pretty much to go to a > mechanic, and pay exorbitantly high fees to have your > AC system recharged. I have never had work done on > the AC system where it cost less than $500. They > always find a 'problem' with the drier, evaporator, > clamps, hoses.... > > Unless you live where it is very hot, I wouldn't even > bother. a totally rebuilt Westy AC system barely kept > my vanagon bareable in the Houston summers, and it > sucked so much power from the engine I got in the > habit of driving around in my boxers and drinking a > lot of AquaFina. > > Just my .02 > Mark > --- timnew <timnew@PACBELL.NET> wrote: > > I want to put some AC freon in my 86 GL. I've never > > done this before. What > > kind of freon do I need? what other equipment might > > I need? where do I > > install the freon? > > > > Tim > > 86 GL > > > ===== > Mark > Music is the soundtrack to the Low Budget B-movie that is my life. > > 87 Westfalia Gl > 84 Scirocco 8v > http://student.fortlewis.edu/~mwmages/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/


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